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		<title>By: Liberty: The True Axiom &#124; Reason for Liberty &#124; From Ancap With Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty: The True Axiom &#124; Reason for Liberty &#124; From Ancap With Love</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Amelia Vreeland</title>
		<link>http://www.reasonforliberty.com/reason/liberty-the-true-axiom.html#comment-2822</link>
		<dc:creator>Amelia Vreeland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was talking of government.
And you are quite right, government is just a group of individuals like you are I. Why, then, do you attribute to them some knowledge for the betterment of society when you think that without government people would devolve into total chaos? If that is the natural tendency of humans, doesn’t it follow from you logic that government, since it is without accountability to its own actions, living in a self-perpetuating anarchy with which they have “lack of discipline, disrespect and insensitivity towards other fellow humans”? For you and I, without the barrel of the gun behind us, we have to live by economic means and social power. We have to work for ourselves and all of those things which we care about it and can only do it by expending our own efforts. What of those who go into politics? They are people who decided that, instead of working their hardest to institute change by their own will and in their own will, they would prefer to do it through the means of coercion. Are these the people to whom we should entrust our well being?
I am asserting there is no necessity for government. 
&quot;Do those worshippers of government believe that free persons will cease to act? Does it follow that if we receive no energy from the law, we shall receive no energy at all? Does it follow that if the law is restricted to the function of protecting the free use of our faculties, we will be unable to use our faculties? Suppose that the law does not force us to follow certain forms of religion, or systems of association, or methods of education, or regulations of labor, or regulations of trade, or plans for charity; does it then follow that we shall eagerly plunge into atheism, hermitary, ignorance, misery, and greed? If we are free, does it follow that we shall no longer recognize the power and goodness of God? Does it follow that we shall then cease to associate with each other, to help each other, to love and succor our unfortunate brothers, to study the secrets of nature, and to strive to improve ourselves to the best of our abilities?&quot;
What is it that makes you think so grimly of humanity and so highly of those divine humans who are employed by the State?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking of government.<br />
And you are quite right, government is just a group of individuals like you are I. Why, then, do you attribute to them some knowledge for the betterment of society when you think that without government people would devolve into total chaos? If that is the natural tendency of humans, doesn’t it follow from you logic that government, since it is without accountability to its own actions, living in a self-perpetuating anarchy with which they have “lack of discipline, disrespect and insensitivity towards other fellow humans”? For you and I, without the barrel of the gun behind us, we have to live by economic means and social power. We have to work for ourselves and all of those things which we care about it and can only do it by expending our own efforts. What of those who go into politics? They are people who decided that, instead of working their hardest to institute change by their own will and in their own will, they would prefer to do it through the means of coercion. Are these the people to whom we should entrust our well being?<br />
I am asserting there is no necessity for government.<br />
&#8220;Do those worshippers of government believe that free persons will cease to act? Does it follow that if we receive no energy from the law, we shall receive no energy at all? Does it follow that if the law is restricted to the function of protecting the free use of our faculties, we will be unable to use our faculties? Suppose that the law does not force us to follow certain forms of religion, or systems of association, or methods of education, or regulations of labor, or regulations of trade, or plans for charity; does it then follow that we shall eagerly plunge into atheism, hermitary, ignorance, misery, and greed? If we are free, does it follow that we shall no longer recognize the power and goodness of God? Does it follow that we shall then cease to associate with each other, to help each other, to love and succor our unfortunate brothers, to study the secrets of nature, and to strive to improve ourselves to the best of our abilities?&#8221;<br />
What is it that makes you think so grimly of humanity and so highly of those divine humans who are employed by the State?</p>
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		<title>By: GP</title>
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		<dc:creator>GP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure why it was posted incmplete earlier?..Let hope this time it will get through..
How do you justify one entity having a higher power and knowledge
of what need be done than those who supply such entity with the energy to accomplish it?
==&gt;Are u taking a dig at Govt or &quot;The Almighty (God)&quot; :) ? - I don&#039;t understand, why Libertians  think of Govt. as some sort of monster. In fact, its made up from ppl like u and me with some elevated privileges to take 
decisions for the bettterment of society.If they are failing in some department then obviously its a job of citizens to make them pay for it through democratic means. 
But if ur in denial of &quot;Necessity of existence of Govt.&quot; then I guess ur definitely heading towards chaos. (as it will result into lack of discipline, disrespect and insensitivity towards other fellow humans in the name of &quot;righteous selfishness&quot;,lack of rules n regulations as it wud be termed as &quot;hindrance to Liberty&quot; )
If ur talking about &quot;God&quot; as entity who is been granted all the unnecessary &quot;superpower status&quot; by ppl then I guess ur mistaken! Its a matter of faith. 
If u dnt have faith in God&#039;s will( read - fate/destiny), be content with idea i.e. &quot;I am controlling my own destiny&quot; -( which I guess true to some extent as some things are simpley beyond our control)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure why it was posted incmplete earlier?..Let hope this time it will get through..<br />
How do you justify one entity having a higher power and knowledge<br />
of what need be done than those who supply such entity with the energy to accomplish it?<br />
==&gt;Are u taking a dig at Govt or &#8220;The Almighty (God)&#8221; <img src='http://www.reasonforliberty.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ? &#8211; I don&#8217;t understand, why Libertians  think of Govt. as some sort of monster. In fact, its made up from ppl like u and me with some elevated privileges to take<br />
decisions for the bettterment of society.If they are failing in some department then obviously its a job of citizens to make them pay for it through democratic means.<br />
But if ur in denial of &#8220;Necessity of existence of Govt.&#8221; then I guess ur definitely heading towards chaos. (as it will result into lack of discipline, disrespect and insensitivity towards other fellow humans in the name of &#8220;righteous selfishness&#8221;,lack of rules n regulations as it wud be termed as &#8220;hindrance to Liberty&#8221; )<br />
If ur talking about &#8220;God&#8221; as entity who is been granted all the unnecessary &#8220;superpower status&#8221; by ppl then I guess ur mistaken! Its a matter of faith.<br />
If u dnt have faith in God&#8217;s will( read &#8211; fate/destiny), be content with idea i.e. &#8220;I am controlling my own destiny&#8221; -( which I guess true to some extent as some things are simpley beyond our control)</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Vasquez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Vasquez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is amazingly insightful.  Great writer, reasonofliberty.com.  I look forward to her next piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is amazingly insightful.  Great writer, reasonofliberty.com.  I look forward to her next piece.</p>
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