Comments on: Population, Poverty and Production http://www.reasonforliberty.com/economy/population-poverty-and-production.html Because everything has a reason! Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:55:29 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mixed Economy or Interventionism | Reason for Liberty http://www.reasonforliberty.com/economy/population-poverty-and-production.html/comment-page-1#comment-2776 Mixed Economy or Interventionism | Reason for Liberty Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:40:41 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=1710#comment-2776 [...] and free market. Footnotes:Burden of debt and loss, Reason for Liberty [↩] [↩]Population, Poverty and production, Reason for Liberty [↩]Such Interventions creates Forced Economic Inequalities, Economic [...]

[…] and free market. Footnotes:Burden of debt and loss, Reason for Liberty [↩] [↩]Population, Poverty and production, Reason for Liberty [↩]Such Interventions creates Forced Economic Inequalities, Economic […]

]]> By: Self-Defense, Right of Living, and Handguns | Reason for Liberty http://www.reasonforliberty.com/economy/population-poverty-and-production.html/comment-page-1#comment-1725 Self-Defense, Right of Living, and Handguns | Reason for Liberty Tue, 26 May 2009 06:40:12 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=1710#comment-1725 [...] population was 6.8 per cent in 1991 and it will be over 8.9 per cent in 2016. Delhi alone has a population of five million ‘financially secure’ senior citizens. Over 170,000 are old couples living [...]

[…] population was 6.8 per cent in 1991 and it will be over 8.9 per cent in 2016. Delhi alone has a population of five million ‘financially secure’ senior citizens. Over 170,000 are old couples living […]

]]> By: emigioutt http://www.reasonforliberty.com/economy/population-poverty-and-production.html/comment-page-1#comment-1724 emigioutt Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:09:21 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=1710#comment-1724 I am unable to understand this post. But well some points are useful for me. I am unable to understand this post. But well some points are useful for me.

]]> By: The Middle Vice! | Reason for Liberty http://www.reasonforliberty.com/economy/population-poverty-and-production.html/comment-page-1#comment-1723 The Middle Vice! | Reason for Liberty Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:40:30 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=1710#comment-1723 [...] now and it will not be good. They agrees socialism is bad, they claim capitalism may be bad; hence they suggest the Mixed Economy, as the middle path. Nicomachean Ethics suggests, “Virtue must have the quality of aiming at the [...]

[…] now and it will not be good. They agrees socialism is bad, they claim capitalism may be bad; hence they suggest the Mixed Economy, as the middle path. Nicomachean Ethics suggests, “Virtue must have the quality of aiming at the […]

]]> By: GP http://www.reasonforliberty.com/economy/population-poverty-and-production.html/comment-page-1#comment-1720 GP Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:39:39 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=1710#comment-1720 Good One!!. Especially The definition of poverty and what can be done to reduce the poverty i.e. Increasing productivity of each individual. I also agree with your idea about cancelling welfare programs by Govt.(but I think exceptions shud be made to genuince cases of physically handicapped individuals who cannot work) But I think Indian govt. shud also keep a check on sensus by ensuring 2 child policy gets implemented in all section of society..It seems difficult though considering the democratic system in India and mass illiteracy and lack of awareness among few communities but I think we will get there sooner or later. I think India have to adopt regulated capitalism instead of free Market capitalism and of course we shud need strong foundation of primary and higher education to make sure we get highly qualified and trained manpower Good One!!. Especially The definition of poverty and what can be done to reduce the poverty i.e. Increasing productivity of each individual.
I also agree with your idea about cancelling welfare programs by Govt.(but I think exceptions shud be made to genuince cases of physically handicapped individuals who cannot work)
But I think Indian govt. shud also keep a check on sensus by ensuring 2 child policy gets implemented in all section of society..It seems difficult though considering the democratic system in India
and mass illiteracy and lack of awareness among few communities but I think we will get there sooner or later.
I think India have to adopt regulated capitalism instead of free Market capitalism and of course we shud need strong foundation of primary and higher education to make sure we get highly qualified and trained manpower

]]> By: Unpretentious Diva http://www.reasonforliberty.com/economy/population-poverty-and-production.html/comment-page-1#comment-1719 Unpretentious Diva Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:26:35 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=1710#comment-1719 <em>i disagree with the notion that ‘population’ is a problem in any form at all. </em> <span></span> So it is the answer for the question "Is population explosion a drastic problem with catastrophic consequences?" <span></span> Yet, the answer itself is in sense of collectivism. it is for the Individual person or a couple to decide if they should go for family planning or not. Population may not be a problem on collective progress of a nation or earth, but for a family, the family makers will have to decide how much they wanna expand and why. There neither comes the question of capitalism or socialism or even religion. it is individual's choice or the choice of a couple. i disagree with the notion that ‘population’ is a problem in any form at all.


So it is the answer for the question “Is population explosion a drastic problem with catastrophic consequences?”

Yet, the answer itself is in sense of collectivism. it is for the Individual person or a couple to decide if they should go for family planning or not.
Population may not be a problem on collective progress of a nation or earth, but for a family, the family makers will have to decide how much they wanna expand and why. There neither comes the question of capitalism or socialism or even religion. it is individual’s choice or the choice of a couple.

]]> By: renegade_division http://www.reasonforliberty.com/economy/population-poverty-and-production.html/comment-page-1#comment-1722 renegade_division Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:12:51 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=1710#comment-1722 @Dsylexic Don't forget that socialist Govts also benefit from population control programs, it benefits them because now they will have to plan for less number of people. Population control programs only exist in Socialist centrally planned countries. In a free market society more poor people means more cheap labor, that means more profitable businesses. But for a socialist society, more people means more people to provide welfare to. Also since more welfare is being provided, market is unable to affect the poor people in making their decisions about their kids. If Market does not need more poor people then it will disincentivize them and they will stop procreating. For example if right now if Free Market was the only "welfare" to the people, the population growth rate will fall significantly, for next 10-20 years, after which the market will have fully absorbed these people and will need more of them. @Dsylexic
Don’t forget that socialist Govts also benefit from population control programs, it benefits them because now they will have to plan for less number of people. Population control programs only exist in Socialist centrally planned countries.

In a free market society more poor people means more cheap labor, that means more profitable businesses. But for a socialist society, more people means more people to provide welfare to. Also since more welfare is being provided, market is unable to affect the poor people in making their decisions about their kids. If Market does not need more poor people then it will disincentivize them and they will stop procreating.

For example if right now if Free Market was the only “welfare” to the people, the population growth rate will fall significantly, for next 10-20 years, after which the market will have fully absorbed these people and will need more of them.

]]> By: Dsylexic http://www.reasonforliberty.com/economy/population-poverty-and-production.html/comment-page-1#comment-1721 Dsylexic Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:05:43 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=1710#comment-1721 i disagree with the notion that 'population' is a problem in any form at all. such old malthusian ideas have been trashed long back. people are the the engines of economic growth -how can you ever call them as a problem. the problem might be the restrictions that the state puts them under.the lack of law enforcement including those of property titles is not because of population growth at all. it indicates a failure of collectivist statist behaviour. we in india have to be extremely wary of the so called noble hearted whites trying to 'control' population growth in india/asia -especially amongst the poor. Paul Elrich was one of those who predicted vast number of human beings dying because of population growth -now he sits on the board of many climate control committees of govt. he is essentially a control freak,a freedom hater. people like him provide false intellectual cover to 'control' and command activities of the state. the systematic attempt to reduce the population of the poor in asia is a dastardly attempt at eugenics and should be recogzined for what it is . i disagree with the notion that ‘population’ is a problem in any form at all. such old malthusian ideas have been trashed long back. people are the the engines of economic growth -how can you ever call them as a problem. the problem might be the restrictions that the state puts them under.the lack of law enforcement including those of property titles is not because of population growth at all. it indicates a failure of collectivist statist behaviour.

we in india have to be extremely wary of the so called noble hearted whites trying to ‘control’ population growth in india/asia -especially amongst the poor. Paul Elrich was one of those who predicted vast number of human beings dying because of population growth -now he sits on the board of many climate control committees of govt. he is essentially a control freak,a freedom hater. people like him provide false intellectual cover to ‘control’ and command activities of the state.

the systematic attempt to reduce the population of the poor in asia is a dastardly attempt at eugenics and should be recogzined for what it is .

]]> By: Unpretentious Diva http://www.reasonforliberty.com/economy/population-poverty-and-production.html/comment-page-1#comment-1718 Unpretentious Diva Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:41:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=1710#comment-1718 <blockquote>Your concept seems to be workable but not in India. Do you think that you can take muslims too into confidence and help them aware about problems of growing population in a place like India. I am myself a muslim and I don’t feel the religon would  succumb to other pressures..</blockquote> umm...what pressure you are talking about? See, your progress is not dependent on your religion. How does it matters if you are muslim or hindu or sikh? Irrespective of your religion, you need to work for a living, and you need to provide good healthy life to your children your family members too. Religion won't be helping you, you will have to help yourself. You will have to work for your own progress. There is no need for you to think for all muslims collectively, or all indians. Just work for your own progress and productivity. You cannot take decisions for all muslims of India, nor any muslim religious leader can force you accept his decisions. You have freedom to use your own mind for your own progress, and freedom to renounce any sort of indoctrinations, and try to save your friends, kids and colleagues too from indoctrinations. That will be enough from your side.

Your concept seems to be workable but not in India.
Do you think that you can take muslims too into confidence and help them aware about problems of growing population in a place like India. I am myself a muslim and I don’t feel the religon would  succumb to other pressures..

umm…what pressure you are talking about?

See, your progress is not dependent on your religion. How does it matters if you are muslim or hindu or sikh?
Irrespective of your religion, you need to work for a living, and you need to provide good healthy life to your children your family members too. Religion won’t be helping you, you will have to help yourself. You will have to work for your own progress.
There is no need for you to think for all muslims collectively, or all indians. Just work for your own progress and productivity. You cannot take decisions for all muslims of India, nor any muslim religious leader can force you accept his decisions. You have freedom to use your own mind for your own progress, and freedom to renounce any sort of indoctrinations, and try to save your friends, kids and colleagues too from indoctrinations. That will be enough from your side.

]]> By: umarblogs http://www.reasonforliberty.com/economy/population-poverty-and-production.html/comment-page-1#comment-1717 umarblogs Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:11:32 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=1710#comment-1717 Your concept seems to be workable but not in India. Do you think that you can take muslims too into confidence and help them aware about problems of growing population in a place like India. I am myself a muslim and I don't feel the religon would  succumb to other pressures.. Your concept seems to be workable but not in India.
Do you think that you can take muslims too into confidence and help them aware about problems of growing population in a place like India. I am myself a muslim and I don’t feel the religon would  succumb to other pressures..

]]> By: HOBO(nickname) http://www.reasonforliberty.com/economy/population-poverty-and-production.html/comment-page-1#comment-1716 HOBO(nickname) Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:11:19 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=1710#comment-1716 awareness is awakening. awareness is awakening.

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