David

Hey man I agree with you.. that IQ does developed over the time when u do the brain exercises. This is what Darvin says and this is what caused monkeys to develop into humans. Since all monkeys couldn’t developed in to human, all human didn’t evolve to rational mindset of same level. It all depneds on their surviving pattern. As I said earlier also, nobody is responsible for it’s state e.g. a pig has no fault that he is a pig. But if a pig says he is pig because his leader is not GOOD and corrupt then offcoursse he is unaware of real truth. Do u think pigs are dirty because they have bad leaders or u say Cats keep themselves clean is because they have low corruption. I don’t think so. It’s a plain truth the taste u live, it’s the midset u live.

When there was no technology Britishes used to live fashionable, professional (for their look and feel), they had stone made beautiful houses and a very efficient systems. They had flowers, neat and clean roads made of normal stones and earth. Their living standard was high despite the lack of technology and money.

Living better is not dependent on technology and money or population. It’s related to ur taste and what is actually a part of bigger term called IQ.

I agree IQ of Indians is increasing. This is exactly the reason India is improving. Now less people want to settle abroad as they see opportunity here. The main reason of the recent IQ growth in India is thanks to “Globalization,Shrinking resources,bursting population, media and all.”

I would say Globalization is the biggest factor. Because when u see many things, u think and chose a better one after comparing them. If we don’t see how other people are living, we be happy with our existence and don’t develop.

The point which I raised is the reason India is corrupt and dirty is not because of the laeders but beacsue of public itlsef.
The Engineers and Doctors have some kind of programmed mind sets which come via going to colleges, they know how to do an operation and write if-eles-for loop. Not necessarily they have better IQ. If an IT engineer says that only Leaders are responsible for the corruption, I won’t vote it’s not affecting the govt system, then he at the very first place is as dumb as an computer box which knows only things which it is programmed for. He is not self driven. and off course he doesn’t have a good IQ and above all of it, remember all people are not doctors and enginners. only less than 0.4% people.

The people who have better IQ they dig into the root cause of the problem and fix it from the root not from the leaves.

Accepting is the first point before fixing it. Indians have problem in finding the root cause itself.

What u r confusing with the IQ and survival relationship in today context. I was talking about the last thousands of years Indian people have gone thru. Today u have many ways to survive.

1. you can keep Cows and sell milk to paultry farms and from the money purchase a computer which is made in China.
2. Do farming which is a global market now.
3. Do eng/medical which is a global market.
4. Outsourcing again global market.
5. media
.. so on
there are infinite jobs even to kill some one there is a job though in a govt systen it’s called crime.

I was talking beginning years of human civilization. Indians have the same ancestors as europeans have.
Dravidian settled in India before Aryan and other white races came to India.
(P.S. No land belongs to anyone who owns it now is the real owner )

This is the reason even u will see a cultural/taste/IQ difference b/w north Indians and south Indias.
Now all (100%) people in India are mixed the only diff is some are more Dravidian and less (Arayn+ other white) and vice a verse.

It’s only the survival factor which makes a difference.
Ur IQ base ( time when u r born ) is what ur ancestral genes tree is.

(Remember two siblings can have different gene tree as they can get different genes different from their mother and father. Because when it come to inheritance from u not only carry ur own genes but also of your ancestors. Chances which genes ur children will get is random. Chances for ur baby to get ur genes is most likely but she/he can also get the genes of ur father and mother and their fathers and mothers so on on moving into infinite chain. Higher the level, less likely to get that gene. That’s the reason it’s very less likely to get a baby with a tail even though it’s in ancestral gene)

Then you start in this world with that base and it get change + or – according to the environmental forces on you ..(e.g. ur parents/street/gal friend/friends/teacher/weather/germs/college etc.. every small and big thing u can think of which is affecting you)

so the function goes like this

1) f(genes)=g(base genes)+h(environment)
2) f(genes)=j(ur response to environment)+g(base genes)

combining 1st and 2nd

j(ur response)=k(base genes)+h(environment)

So genes itself is in a loop (depeneds on it’s prvious state). Environment which in turn cause you to respond to it is the only factor which can change your base gene.

Environment has far less impact on the base genes in one generation. But in several generations down the line it can cause a huge change. Even it can change upto a level that become evolutions and one species can change into another species. And then cross breeding is not allowed:)

You can see a poor higher caste person in India can perform better than a poor lower caste person in same circumstances solely because he has better genes.

You can see your selves in India, Pandits have better memory to mug up things as they are practicing it for years but they don’t have very good IQ so still they live petty lives. This is regarding to the highest caste in India. Thakurs on the other hand are more brave and aggressive but lacks reasoning and politics .. same way u can explain the behaviors of all.

I can’t guarantee on whether it was the genes to divide the people first on various caste like this or people were randomly divided first and then their genes developed according to their acts like these.

But it’s true that various casts in India do have genetic difference though small. So I personally don’t see any difference b/w racism and cast-ism.

See the genetic diff b/w a chinese dog and german shepheard. it’s tooo huge..

Same goes with Human. Their is a difference and difference can be minimized with hard work and not via merley complaining.

Have u ever thought why Europeans are so beautiful, smart, tall and muscular. It has come via their life style, hardwork and which has in turn come via long struggle for survival of their ancestors in past.

Beauty is nothing but reflection of ur mind (some divide it into several parts like personality/emotional intelligence/social intelligence/courage/bravery/rational mideset etc.. I say one word for it that is IQ) on ur body. If some one is bitch, it’ll appear in his/her face. If some one is lazy it’ll appear in his skin/height/bones/muslcles. so on…

Same People of european genes in USA are becoming fat up to the extent that it has been now wired into their genes.

Indians are lazy and naive and reflected by their filthy and ugly bodies and face cuts.
(I observed less than 1% Indians have beautiful bodies. Some places it’s GOOD like Kashmir/North-east/Tibbat/HP/UK/Punjaab/Haryana and some places it’s slightly better e.g. RAJ/Gujrat/Maharshatra/UP/MP/BIHAR other places it’s rare).

Keeping in mind people are not ugly because of their skin color but because of lack of good personality. (equivalent to saying good genes or good body+mind. Skin quality/bones/muscles do define beauty as it’s a either a physical quality to fight with germs (skin)or to show strongness/activeness (bones and muscles). A good nature will always enhance ones beauty which affects ones facial structure. It’s another matter of fact blacks are mostly ugly and whites are mostly beautiful and mixed are 50% beautiful. But there do exist black people who are sexy and beautiful e.g. Halle berry being black is hot which proves people are not ugly because of skin color).

Because Indians lack smartness they are not united, always invaded/looted. I am saying a fact it may be criticizing for some one. Truth remain same.

I know my statement can’t change India unless I and U act together. But here I only want to reveal the truth.

@lokesh:
You exactly demonstrated and proved that Indian’s have low IQ. It’s we public who make the govt. Political Leaders are Representative of the Public only. If all of us vote wisely there is no chance to get a bad govt. Imagine one of your family member is behaving wrongly and doing bullshit and harming family. What would u do considering the fact you have no option to abandon??? Govt is such a family member if it goes wrong you need to use your power to make it correct rather than complaining, sitting idle and expecting. Vote is the most powerful asset we have, it’s much more powerful than showing ur anger thru marches and rallies.

I agree that Anna’s rallies do help but it’s a very less effective act. I support his cause but it’s not the best solution.

The democracy loop works as below:
(developed countries)

better public-> better voting-> better leaders -> better system -> better public

and

(corrupt countries)

uneducated/unaware/idiot/poor public-> cunny selfish leaders -> poor system -> corruptions and problems -> public anger and disbelief in system -> no voting from educated, salaried and rich people only voting is done on the basis of short term vision by poor people like liquor, blankket, 500 Rs note, cell phones, gas connnection, caste and other system-> voting to wrong people-> cunny selfish leaders again-> no development -> poor system -> uneducated/unaware/idiot/poor public

In order to break the worst loop and to move on in better loop educated and aware people need to help in making better govt.

If you are so angry with the leaders why don’t u jump to the politics?? you won’t because u know it’s a poor system, the salaries are very low for a leader, there are no appreciations, appraisal, and bonuses for better work and the only way to earn money is do corruption and forget morality and ethics.

A better system will come via better leaders which in turn will come via wise voting.
India has voting but wise voting is less than 5%.
We should thank our luck that we got democracy.
At least this is sthing which can be controlled very easily without paying any cost (just via a simple vote).
Even the King system can be changed but mostly via violent retaliation.

See the voting % of USA.

It’s around 90% in the beginning of the countries independence. USA’s foundation is build during these initial years. Now in USA also people are getting careless for voting and USA will have to pay the cost for it by getting underdeveloped in coming years.

India never crossed 64% voting and 1/2 of it’s fake. So out of 30%, 27% are purchased votes only 3% are genuine.
(PS: These are rough calculations don’t go by it it may be one or two % +/-)
India:
http://www.idea.int/vt/country_view.cfm?CountryCode=IN

Usa:
http://www.idea.int/vt/country_view.cfm?id=231

Even though voting % ramin same USA will excel beacuse voters in USA are always more sensible and responsible.
(Because of highe living standards and IQ most of the citizen are sincere, so any chunck of it will also be sincere)

So voting % is not the only factor but still a factor. The main factor is low level of IQ.

Ask ur selves.

Why cows and bull are killed because thay are not united when they are attacked
Why pack of dogs surive because they are united when attacked by wild cats and they fight bravely don’t run.
It’s IQ. It’s a world where not everyone is same. Since there are devloped civilization because there exists poor civilization.

Also it’s different matter what’s right and wrong.

A pig will never admit that it lives dirty and poor as it’s way of life. NO one can explain him as it’s his taste and IQ.

But defenitley a wrong person exists beacuse other people bare him.

Peoples’ IQ are developed according to their survival factors and surrounding environments (like germs, attacks from invaders and difficulty of survival)

If your survival is easy ur brain will not grow much. The reason Indians have one of the least IQ in the world is Indian land is too fertile, has plenty of drinking water and it’s environment is very conducive for survival. India is feeding a billion people and still able to export the Raw material and food.

That’s the reason brains are not reasonable in fact they are very superstitious and root cause of all of the India’s problems. Indians are not reasonable because they didn’t have to for their survival.

In a tough env only fittest survive but in India all kind of people survive and mjority of them have very low IQ.

European have better brain and reasoning they have less no of GODs as they didn’t invent new ones because they became reasonable quiet early as compared to Indian subcontinent.

It’s a matter of fact that USA, CANADA, Australia and South Africa is developed because European genes and not because of Indians labors or like that any other labors.

Some Indians are now growing because of the globalization they see compare and chose to live better.

please read this book and it will give answers of all the conditions of all people all over the world:

Guns, Germs and Steel by Diamond, Jared.

No one is responsible to what he is, it’s just environment and surrounding conditions which mold you and make you.

So what we can do is just pray to GOD to make Indians conditions even more competitive and tough so that IQ, Innovation, Creativity can flourish in India.

let’s only fittest to survive, let many peoples die but who survive live a better life instead of just counting the years.

Every democracy gets a deserving government (Aristotle)

Recent apprise with Anna team shows again the lack of IQ.

Every democracy gets a deserving government (Aristotle)

I support and have a soft heart for Anna as well as Ramdev, as their intentions are good and these people can’t be bought by govt, they are not sellable.
What they want is good for all the India but the major concern remains whether it can be done??

In my opinion it’s not as it’s very reasonable that a Lion will not stop killing Cows and Bulls if they asks him to do so. But Cows and Bulls if want can be united together and can defeat Lions if they have courage, strategy, IQ. They should identify power of their Horns that they are not for exhibition.

You can see that buffalos, pack of dogs(despite the small size) choose to fight with wild Cats and they are less attacked and Killed even they kill wild cat some times.

Why a corrupt govt which is extremely powerful will make a law for anticorruption ?

I think it’s the time for educated people, salaried people, MNC workers, Students to unite together and give votes to right candidates. In my opinion India is corrupt because of these people only.

“Bad politicians are sent to Washington by good people who don’t vote.”
William E. Simon quotes

(William E. Simon enjoyed legendary success in American business, public affairs and government.)

Many people give excuses for “not to vote” that all the standing candidates are corrupt. Then I would suggest to give vote to least corrupt person else most corrupt person will win. But please expect it’ll take at least 3-4 iteration if we try now to get almost completely clean govt
(means 15-20 years easily, better our responsibility sooner it would be).

Don’t think that overnight people from mars will come and stand on the election.

People say we pay taxes and govt should do this and that for us. First of all we don’t pay taxes the taxes are taken from us by law .
When it comes to responsibility no one wants to take it. Since there is no tax if we don’t vote so people don’t take a pain for standing in a Q and vote.

I think good people don’t come to politics as they don’t win one of the major reason of that is lack of responsible public.. I met a person he was a good MLA and when I discussed with him he says Public is not with me public don’t want Roads, hospitals, schools and water what they are interested is in one day before 500 rs note/liquor/mobile phone etc. He says public deserves what they are. He did all the Good and lost next election.

If we give a clear message to all parties that we want a good candidate than certainly they will give tickets to good candidates next time. We will see better faces next time it all depends on our response. Parties are interested in making Govt, winning not in doing patriotism.

I think most of the us are not patriotic either, and to make a good govt we don’t have to be. I myself want to relocate temporarily to some developed country and so do others.
(I agree I am not that great patriotic of the level of Bhagat Singh or Subhash Chandra)

We just have to have a good reasoning. Good roads, electricity, water, safety and less corruption is the thing which is our leisure/benefits and it has nothing to do with the patriotism.

If we have good reasoning we will have to select good people who can achieve it.

We will have to do a exercise in each election
1. who all is standing in the elections.
2. Their Agendas
3. Their Qualifications
4. Their determinations
5. What was the problems he has given to us when he won last time and what was his achievements to decide him for this time.
So on..

It’s for each and every individual’s own interest.

One of the major issue with people in India is unable to connect issue to root cause, they connect the issue to emotional side, they are more interested in saying words rather than execution.

The lack of IQ is major concerns. The people are like a programmed machine which can do engineering, medical stuff etc.. but they are as dump as a computer Box.

We should be more reasonable.

See where India stand in the IQ level

India is way behind the Countries like even China and Korea, European people set apart as needless to say they are most practical..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations

It’s not to offend or abuse but to see inside, accept it and have deep thinking have longer vision. I think accepting is a first step before fixing it.

People need to think rather than being emotional.

I would rather support (personally and financially), Jago re campaign rather than Anna’s team.

http://www.jaagore.com/

let’s hope Indians to be more reasonable, as it depends on the surrounding conditions and that is something which we don’t have any control on it …so we can just hope

I see you WHINING and snorting. AHAHHAHA! Read your message and you’ll see who is SOUNDING like PIG. LOL!

Unfortunately, Indians have NOT grown out of MENTAL slavery.
“Also the fact that indians,pakistanis,bangalis,chinese,etc all compalin that britain invaded their countries and took everything from them and britain was the one that was corrupt.”

India is filthy because of POPULATION explosion and POVERTY. A good 25(+)% Indians still are under poverty line.
India is corrupt because of corrupt politician. Corruption spreads from top to bottom.