Comments on: Issue of Date Rape

By: Mojo Jo Jo

Mojo Jo Jo — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:12:44 +0000

Real Men Don’t “Date Rape” We trick them into a date, then a wrestling match that mix with truth or dare, and then a sex game that turn into actual sex. By the time they realize whats going on, my soldier is already infiltrating the enemy base and pumping for secret information until he’s finished.

By: SEXUAL HARASSMENT

SEXUAL HARASSMENT — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:55:33 +0000

Most of us treat rape as entertainment. But we can’t imagine that how they feel who faced this problem. No one knows what happened backstage. Most of the peoples are not aware about sexual harassment and its very important to make them aware this will help us to decrease occurring sexual harassment in our country.

By: Unpretentious Diva

Unpretentious Diva — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:37:37 +0000

well, when u get sedatives through drinks you won’t have power to use gun . This is applicable to both men and women.

That is what I said GP, even men can be vulnerable if you use sedatives so you don’t need to say that women are vulnerable, both men women are equally vulnerable, every living species is vulnerable sometime or other. For all other situations as I already said

Don’t sell the idea of vulnerability, sensuality and male fun, it can be dangerous as I have got a gun!

By: GP

GP — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:02:20 +0000

well, when u get sedatives through drinks you won’t have power to use gun . This is applicable to both men and women.

and I am NOT sellling idea of vulnerability, sensuality and male fun.

By: Unpretentious Diva

Unpretentious Diva — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:21:07 +0000

Ever heard of a Gun?

That is the real power. I have mentioned some males being raped and killed brutally by women.

“Don’t sell the idea of vulnerability, sensuality and male fun, it can be dangerous you know, I have a gun!”

Now that rhymes nice!

By: GP

GP — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:18:17 +0000

if a woman claims she was raped, current laws suggest that the accused should be arrested, and it is the burden of accused to prove that there was no rape and he is innocent, and that is as difficult as proving that there happened a rape, that is, if woman claims, the man is destined to be punished No excuse for him.
==> I see what you mean here. In fact article 498A is heavily misused by women.
Even men can not remain physically strong all time so don’t go over that. I mean what the hell! if you wanna mention about pregnancy, woman is strong enough to deny and or abort the child. it is her will! About other things. No living being of whatever gender can remain physically strong at all times.
==> Nope I am not talking about pregnancy , neither I am saying every gender will remain strong forever. My only point was – physical weakness of women make her easy target for rape.
If you talk about – empowering women with self protection training then also I don’t think its of much use not especially to prevent marital rape case

By: Unpretentious Diva

Unpretentious Diva — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 05:47:50 +0000

I think “Marital Rape” is very complicated thing even to admitt in court of law

I would like to say that – as a woman its not always possible to be strong not atleast physically!

Even men can not remain physically strong all time so don’t go over that. I mean what the hell! if you wanna mention about pregnancy, woman is strong enough to deny and or abort the child. it is her will! About other things. No living being of whatever gender can remain physically strong at all times.

By: GP

GP — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 05:23:33 +0000

Never Mind!..Let’s stick to the topic.
Honestly, I think “Marital Rape” is very complicated thing even to admitt in court of law that there is thing called “Marital Rape” coz its very difficult to prove in court that husband had intercourse with her wife without her consent, even the matching medical evidences(semen stains from clothes,genitals of victim) as well as circumstantial evidences are completely inconclusive in court because they are husband and wife and not strangers to each other and its extremely unlikely for judges to accept that its case of rape and not just consesual sex between husband and wife.
2) When you say that – “Woman shouldn’t consider herself weak and she was weak and opressed just bcoz she think so”
–> I would like to say that – as a woman its not always possible to be strong not atleast physically!
–> and exactly for the same reason – she can’t protect herself from –> being raped by her husband
Now Regarding your point of about mental toughness
–> I would say there are several ways and means to break women no –> matter how much mentally though they are which I am sure you must knowing too!
(Please Note : I am not justifying or supporting these acts. )
So my points are -
1)There is no hard and fast rule on – how to prevent a Marital rape Its all up to that person , how he/she chooses his/her life partner and the way they treat themselves.
2) In court its extremely difficult to prove it

By: Unpretentious Diva

Unpretentious Diva — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:04:06 +0000

@ GP

As i said earlier, until you wont read and understand Virtue of Selfishness, your all reading is incomplete.
Stick with topic!

By: Unpretentious Diva

Unpretentious Diva — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:07:43 +0000

@ GP, trust me you will never understand any meaning of Shankaracharya’s statement until you wont understand the right meaning of Virtue of Slefishness.

I am sorry all your readings have provided you lesser good. But anyways i am happy atleast you tried.

Please avoid suggesting me what should I read, I am already a Vedic Schollar. you can have any sort of debate over any Vedic atheistic literature Nyaya, Samkhya, Mimaamsa, Advaita, Dvaita Taittreya Vednata, or you may pull up the major scriptures right any of them Rig, Sam, Yajur Arthav. but not here.
Here you need to keep alignment with the post for which you are commenting.

Enjoy!

By: GP

GP — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:47:40 +0000

@Unpretentious
No action is rape until proven beyond doubts that yes it is/was a rape.
No accused is victim until proven, but in cases of dogmatic state rule of sexual offense, you will seldom get a chance to show your innocence, if the girl says you are a rapist, you become a rapist.
<<<>>>>>>>
I must say, Its not Ayn Rand who was first to say that Selfishness is Virtue.
It was Shankaracharya who mentioned Ahem Brahma Asi.
<<<< Please try avoiding quoting such statements of his holiness Adi Shankaracharya in your post if you don’t fully comprehend them coz you are simply ruining its essence in date rape post.>>>
@Writer/all commentators
I have two questions for you.
1)How a married woman can PREVENT a marital rape?
2)In case she couldn’t prevent marital rape..Is it possible for her to LEGALLY PROVE that she was raped by her husband?( I think its not.)
I think its not possible to prevent or prove it in court but I wud like to know if you think otherwise.

By: sunny

sunny — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:52:32 +0000

But that happens many a times, such cases have been discovered many a times, even completely false cases have also been discovered.
Things happen either way, when we say we trust our friends, we should be confident to this level?
Its ones determination, or judgment when he/she decides how, much be-friend,with the person.
And to a simple step, if you cannot control your/or friends charging on you, at that situation, I would say you have lost control over everything (may be even under influence of drug/alcohol etc.).
-sunny

By: Unpretentious Diva

Unpretentious Diva — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:23:20 +0000

I am not convinced, with the fact that weather it is rape or not, is decided on later stage, after gaining senses or feeling guilt of action.

But that happens many a times, such cases have been discovered many a times, even completely false cases have also been discovered.

By: sunny

sunny — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:35:46 +0000

I actually read your entire post. I was convinced, with the spurge things can go wrong. I am not convinced, with the fact that weather it is rape or not, is decided on later stage, after gaining senses or feeling guilt of action.

By: Giuseppe

Giuseppe — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:27:31 +0000

To solidify the law in this case, innocent until proven guilty should be held to a reasonable standard. That is, the DA should have to demonstrate that the girl had no intent to engage in sexual activity prior to going out on the date, and that there was nothing which occurred during the date which could suggest otherwise.

Even so, this is a ridiculously complicated issue that leaves no simple solution. It’s clearly not fair that Mr. Frat Boy ends up in jail for having consensual sex that Ms. Sorority Girl changed her mind about the next day; but clearly there’s numerous real instances of this crime as well.

By: Sagar

Sagar — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:28:28 +0000

Good one, kinda debate also.

According to me date rape cannot be considered for first degree felony as it is a complex situation involving a lot of controversies. I think flexibility of law is necessary in this situation. A thorough understanding of case is required to take a decision. But the most important thing is that a female should feel the responsibility for her own safety and security to avoid such kind of situation.

By: renegade_division

renegade_division — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:11:27 +0000

@Mayuresh Said:

“Absolute liberty is impossible” because we are bound by nature, we are part of nature. So if one says “Give me liberty or give me death”, he won’t be getting either of the things. And will land into unhappiness.

Dude I don’t get it, why do you hang around this website, you never agree with anything on this website, but you never defend an opposing point either, its like you just like to oppose things, “rebel without a cause”!
Take for example there is no point in talking about “absolute liberty is impossible” in this thread, there is no relation. Why don’t you simply come to the point what is it you disagree with Libertarian platform.
About absolute Liberty being impossible, is that a call for marginal tyranny to be introduced in our platform? I mean lets presume absolute Liberty is impossible, are we anywhere near it? Are we living in a near-absolute Libertarian society? Are you saying that we are the maximum free we can be, and being more free is impossible? I mean seriously what is your point?
“Hey guys I think we achieved enough Liberty, I don’t think so you can push any more further, because absolute Liberty is impossible”.
OR
“Hey guys since Absolute Liberty is impossible, you must try for Absolute Tyranny”
OR
“Hey guys absolute Liberty is impossible, if you do not support that, then whatever you support that that is impossible”.

By: Unpretentious Diva

Unpretentious Diva — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:16:19 +0000

“Absolute liberty is impossible” because we are bound by nature, we are part of nature. So if one says “Give me liberty or give me death”, he won’t be getting either of the things. And will land into unhappiness.

You do not understand the meaning of LIBERTY. Liberty is not going against nature, Liberty is freedom to use the nature for rational selfish beneficial purpose.

I entertained your wrong idiotic ideas this time, i won’t do it again, you are disturbing my readers who have subscribed for this post, they are intimidated by any of your impertinent and not-related-to-this=post comment.

get a grip, you make any other comment not related to the post, i will delete it. i deleted previous two.

By: Mayuresh

Mayuresh — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:11:21 +0000

Rand was an end in herself. And she is no more……

You can change your statement to “every man is an end in himself, but his thoughts remain”. If one is going to leave some non-material thing behind, could he be called selfish? No, for sure.

“Absolute liberty is impossible” because we are bound by nature, we are part of nature. So if one says “Give me liberty or give me death”, he won’t be getting either of the things. And will land into unhappiness.

By: Unpretentious Diva

Unpretentious Diva — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:58:06 +0000

but see around what is happening to young men arrested in the name of suspicion and their biodata including their famlies,with photos are published in national dalies and are branded anti-nationals and terrorists..Is that right?NO, but it happens as we indians are bloody too hypocritical..

True, but saying “we ALL indians are hypocrite” is wrong.
I am Indian so you are, I am not hypocrite, I won’t let you be hypocrite, you should be a Rani Lakshmi Bai, a Sarojini Naidu, If you become a epitome of braveness and truth, you promote freedom for million more girls around you. That is the right way of prevailing justice, by providing examples of Individual strength, by making charities and cases of Pity, you will never be able to help any woman in distress, by promoting state laws, you will ruin womanhood.
We are Indians and we are Not Hypocrite.

About UAPA law, we criticized it here http://www.reasonforliberty.com/current-affairs/india-heading-towards-state-terrorism.html

If you check our category of Terrorism, you will get some real sparkling facts and theories behind all this hype of terrorism.
I suggest check it out and browse, you may not agree with certain points, but you will find every point raised properly pertinent.
http://www.reasonforliberty.com/category/terrorism

About Judicial System, I am saying again, Justice is never possible under dogmatic hypocrite, unequal state laws.
Private judiciary process will certainly be much better option
http://www.reasonforliberty.com/current-affairs/the-prospects-of-private-judicial-system.html