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		<title>By: Mayank</title>
		<link>http://www.reasonforliberty.com/current-affairs/farmers-die-in-vidharbha.html#comment-1257</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was pointed to this post(&amp; site) by a friend and am new to your views which is why I would not like to make any generic comment. My only concern here is the validity of facts.

I quote from your post &quot;The world was most peaceful from 1815-1914 when it was closest to Capitalism. England, the then freest nation was the richest.&quot;
Kindly throw some light on how you decided upon the most peaceful era of the world? What are the parameters you use to judge &quot;peace&quot;?

Where I come from, which I assume is also where you come from, there were mass starvation and hunger deaths, unimaginable famines costing lives in tens of millions within a gap of few years, agrarian riots, widespread poverty, racial discrimination, wide economic disparity and destruction of traditional industries and the like. The peace that you seem to talk about was, i am afraid, only limited to imperialist countries like Britain.

Judging by the sheer no of posts this site has I think I am right to expect certain level of research before people write. The reason behind Britain being the richest nation then was not it being a free open economy ( i will come to counter that soon) but because it was an imperialist nation. Only a fool can believe that it was otherwise. Do not take my word for it, open any history book - before you say facts are distorted I suggest you pick a neutral author - and the scale of the loot will be evident. I can go into the details of the impact of imperialism in making &quot;England the richest nation&quot; at that time but I guess it would not be fit to do that here.

Coming to the myth of England being a free, open economy then. Again, the evidence of zero research is glaring. Kindly go back to the history books and read up about the rise of the Industrial Revolution and how protectionist measures were adopted by the govt of England to help the rise of the nascent manufacturing industries at home. Even these did not prove to be enough and only when English govt combined these policies with massive suppression of market competitors arising out of traditionally industrialized countries like India(cotton textiles classic case in point) and obtained raw materials at much below market rates (through imperialist capitalist force of course) could the English goods manage to sell ( sometimes colonized people were forced to buy these - again check any historical account).

In this age of explosion of information and push button publishing there are a many millions who will write any kind of balderdash without any factual correctness based on subjective leanings. In the true spirit of Objectivity that Ayn Rand( i understand that that is where you lean) stands for, kindly do not add to those millions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pointed to this post(&amp; site) by a friend and am new to your views which is why I would not like to make any generic comment. My only concern here is the validity of facts.</p>
<p>I quote from your post &#8220;The world was most peaceful from 1815-1914 when it was closest to Capitalism. England, the then freest nation was the richest.&#8221;<br />
Kindly throw some light on how you decided upon the most peaceful era of the world? What are the parameters you use to judge &#8220;peace&#8221;?</p>
<p>Where I come from, which I assume is also where you come from, there were mass starvation and hunger deaths, unimaginable famines costing lives in tens of millions within a gap of few years, agrarian riots, widespread poverty, racial discrimination, wide economic disparity and destruction of traditional industries and the like. The peace that you seem to talk about was, i am afraid, only limited to imperialist countries like Britain.</p>
<p>Judging by the sheer no of posts this site has I think I am right to expect certain level of research before people write. The reason behind Britain being the richest nation then was not it being a free open economy ( i will come to counter that soon) but because it was an imperialist nation. Only a fool can believe that it was otherwise. Do not take my word for it, open any history book &#8211; before you say facts are distorted I suggest you pick a neutral author &#8211; and the scale of the loot will be evident. I can go into the details of the impact of imperialism in making &#8220;England the richest nation&#8221; at that time but I guess it would not be fit to do that here.</p>
<p>Coming to the myth of England being a free, open economy then. Again, the evidence of zero research is glaring. Kindly go back to the history books and read up about the rise of the Industrial Revolution and how protectionist measures were adopted by the govt of England to help the rise of the nascent manufacturing industries at home. Even these did not prove to be enough and only when English govt combined these policies with massive suppression of market competitors arising out of traditionally industrialized countries like India(cotton textiles classic case in point) and obtained raw materials at much below market rates (through imperialist capitalist force of course) could the English goods manage to sell ( sometimes colonized people were forced to buy these &#8211; again check any historical account).</p>
<p>In this age of explosion of information and push button publishing there are a many millions who will write any kind of balderdash without any factual correctness based on subjective leanings. In the true spirit of Objectivity that Ayn Rand( i understand that that is where you lean) stands for, kindly do not add to those millions.</p>
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		<title>By: Responding the questions of an IAS aspirant &#124; Reason for Liberty</title>
		<link>http://www.reasonforliberty.com/current-affairs/farmers-die-in-vidharbha.html#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>Responding the questions of an IAS aspirant &#124; Reason for Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Famers die in Vidharbha 2) Wasn’t it the profit motive that actually RUNS the open economy was also the reason behind the cases like Bofors case or the cheap spare parts of MIG case(which killed many of our soldiers who unlike u and me go to war &amp; try to keep us safe by working with the government)? If politicians were caught during the Tehelka case-who bribed them. THE OWNERS OF THE OPEN&#160;ECONOMY’!   Does free market create Mafia or the government creates Mafia?  The reason why a baker provides you with bread is not because he is benevolent upon you, but because he wants goods for himself like Clothes, housing, medical care, education for his kids which he cannot do all these things himself. So he specializes in baking bread for you. A tailor specializes in sewing clothes for people, a carpenter specializes in building houses for people, and all these people try to make profits because if a tailor does not make profit on his clothes then this means he spent more on buying cloths and got less for the clothes and soon he will become bankrupt and will be left with no money. I suggest you to read my article What are Profits? to read an explanation of the whole concept from me and the Importance of Economic Calculations to understand the necessity to do every operation to maximum&#160;profit. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Famers die in Vidharbha 2) Wasn’t it the profit motive that actually RUNS the open economy was also the reason behind the cases like Bofors case or the cheap spare parts of MIG case(which killed many of our soldiers who unlike u and me go to war &amp; try to keep us safe by working with the government)? If politicians were caught during the Tehelka case-who bribed them. THE OWNERS OF THE OPEN&nbsp;ECONOMY’!   Does free market create Mafia or the government creates Mafia?  The reason why a baker provides you with bread is not because he is benevolent upon you, but because he wants goods for himself like Clothes, housing, medical care, education for his kids which he cannot do all these things himself. So he specializes in baking bread for you. A tailor specializes in sewing clothes for people, a carpenter specializes in building houses for people, and all these people try to make profits because if a tailor does not make profit on his clothes then this means he spent more on buying cloths and got less for the clothes and soon he will become bankrupt and will be left with no money. I suggest you to read my article What are Profits? to read an explanation of the whole concept from me and the Importance of Economic Calculations to understand the necessity to do every operation to maximum&nbsp;profit. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Inefficiency of Indian Education&#160;System &#124; Reason for Liberty</title>
		<link>http://www.reasonforliberty.com/current-affairs/farmers-die-in-vidharbha.html#comment-1255</link>
		<dc:creator>Inefficiency of Indian Education&#160;System &#124; Reason for Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] how we actually go about tackling it.   Are we not equally susceptible to falling in debt traps?   A farmer of Vidharbha and a techie of Bangalore who commits suicide at the same time lack education in same life skill, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] how we actually go about tackling it.   Are we not equally susceptible to falling in debt traps?   A farmer of Vidharbha and a techie of Bangalore who commits suicide at the same time lack education in same life skill, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Twisted Elegance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twisted Elegance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;only cure for poverty is free market&quot;


We all know for a fact that it is pure capitalistic, selfish ideas that promote poverty. Exploitation of ordinary men by the powerful is the cause of poverty all over the world and the reason behind it is free market. Any economy without socialistic ideals will turn out to be anti-poor because they would never be given the oppurtunity by the cynical high class to eliminate their own poverty. Capitalism in its pure state is just blood sucking by the rich. 


I can see where this article is coming from. It does not matter to the writer whether the farmers are suffering or living well. What seems to matter more is the idea of infiltratiing pure capitalistism into the mind of the readers. I can also see that this write up comes from the hands belonging to the rich class which is always against an egalitarian society, which aims only at its own welfare and not the society&#039;s. 


The laudable contribution of P. Sainath in bringing out the miseries of poor farmers deserves the highest honour and gratitude. It is only natural that the super-rich, who cannot stand the development and welfare of the poor, criticize and try to malign the contributions of such stupendous socialists who have dedicated their lives to fight the economic tyrany of a particular class of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;only cure for poverty is free market&#8221;</p>
<p>We all know for a fact that it is pure capitalistic, selfish ideas that promote poverty. Exploitation of ordinary men by the powerful is the cause of poverty all over the world and the reason behind it is free market. Any economy without socialistic ideals will turn out to be anti-poor because they would never be given the oppurtunity by the cynical high class to eliminate their own poverty. Capitalism in its pure state is just blood sucking by the rich. </p>
<p>I can see where this article is coming from. It does not matter to the writer whether the farmers are suffering or living well. What seems to matter more is the idea of infiltratiing pure capitalistism into the mind of the readers. I can also see that this write up comes from the hands belonging to the rich class which is always against an egalitarian society, which aims only at its own welfare and not the society&#8217;s. </p>
<p>The laudable contribution of P. Sainath in bringing out the miseries of poor farmers deserves the highest honour and gratitude. It is only natural that the super-rich, who cannot stand the development and welfare of the poor, criticize and try to malign the contributions of such stupendous socialists who have dedicated their lives to fight the economic tyrany of a particular class of people.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpretentious Diva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unpretentious Diva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, obviously the sounds of Sainath will be enjoyed and respected by many, yet a few will realize that he is not only unreasonable but absurd also! (Or we can say that, that which is unreasonable is absurd!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, obviously the sounds of Sainath will be enjoyed and respected by many, yet a few will realize that he is not only unreasonable but absurd also! (Or we can say that, that which is unreasonable is absurd!)</p>
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