Dec
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Christmas message: Pope Benedict says saving humanity from gays is as important as saving the rainforest from destruction
In a Christmas message, Benedict XVI stressed the importance of traditional marriage and condemned gay acts as against God’s will.
He also attacked transsexuals, saying: ‘It is not man who decides who is a man or woman but God.’
Daily mail UK
Obviously one may say Pope is right for the reason being both the threats of environmentalists about global warming, and religious dictator’s threat about homosexuality are pretty idiotic, wrong and Bad Science (BS).
Actually, I have a lot of respect for Roman Catholics, I know they can often be, warm, honest and intellectually sophisticated people, and as a group, they are not near the lumped together image of dry, sour and fanatic 19th century Christians who have said goodbye to reason or understanding.
That’s why it makes me both sorry, outraged and angry when Pope Benedict targets any kind of homosexual/transgenders/transvestite practices (bisexuality isn’t mentioned but no doubt included) in his Christmas message and punches home the traditional position that all non-straight sexual practices are unwanted, and adds that they pose a major threat to the human race - and then he still professes that the Church loves homosexuals if only they’d abstain from gay/lesbian sex and recognize their error and sin. *deep sigh*
The twist about homosexuality actually threatening mankind - because people would no longer be producing kids? Or by way of the breakdown of the traditional family? - is a new twist, that kind of neo-con slag I have never heard from a pope before.
Sex is essentially for procreation, and homosexuality or “blurring of the borders between male and female” is a threat to the cultural and demographic future of mankind. This is unusually glib rhetoric even for a major religious leader. I mean, after a number of pedophile scandals among the priesthood one might start to question if celibate priests and an insistence on straight sex only is always the right way. None of this here though, just down into the trench.
Moral policing is the worst kind of tyranny a religious authority can divulge in.
According to Joseph Ratzinger “Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons,”
“Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not a sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil; thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder. Therefore special concern and pastoral attention should be directed to those who have this condition, lest they be led to believe that the living out of this orientation in homosexual activity is a morally acceptable option. It is not.”
By terming homosexual inclination as an “Objective disorder”, he was telling people that although each individual does not freely choose homosexuality, it is nevertheless inherently and objectively wrong. That is not only Homosexuals but also the orientation of being emotionally, psychologically, and physically attracted to members of the same sex — that is objectively wrong. Not a “sin,” but still wrong.
Homosexuality is not Immoral
Now what is it if it is not provoking certain discrimination just like apartheid against a sect of society?
Same goes with the governments opposing homosexual relations or interfering in individual private life of citizens. As for example, Indian Penal code still considers sodomy as a criminal offence without any certain reason for that.
It is like banning an activity without considering the question of consent or non-consent.
I find it hard to believe that, based on the scientific information that homosexual and bisexual behavior has been found in most animal species, that the such sexual preferences amounts to the ‘auto destruction of mankind’.
We have had homosexuality throughout human history and we are not extinct yet. Unlike the myriad of species, we have managed to wipe from the face of the earth.
There are plenty of other problems facing the planet and people on it. The Catholic Church’s stance on protecting people from AIDS is as medieval and unhelpful as using gays, lesbians and transgender people as the ultimate bogey man. To me, it looks like a Wizard of Oz type ploy (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain) to distract people from the Church’s increasing irrelevance.
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Vaibhav Says:
December 25th, 2008 at 9:20 pmAs an athiest, I am not against people following religion. But I certainly don’t like it when people like the Pope can represent a religion and make comments that are their individual opinions claiming them to be opinions of the religious community. And blind people also accept them. Religion is worst affected by collectivism and should always be an individual choice
vivek Says:
December 26th, 2008 at 10:28 amI love lesbians (nice pic there) atleast watching them and then thinking about something wicked but socially i am against gayist philosophy. Sexual orientation should be personal thing and when unnatural it should be veiled extremely. I can understand how lesbianism developed in humans as in prehistoric times the women clubbed together in thcaves while men went on hunting expeditions so women felt more comfortable withthem selves. The men in the other hand had no hands free to get jiggy. Hunting expedition were survival battles. Male gayism is either due to lack of testosterone or abundance of it whic causes heightened sexual desires almost animalistic.
renegade_division Says:
December 26th, 2008 at 10:55 amDude you just like watching Girl-on-girl action, but if you don’t find anything wrong with Lesbianism, then you should not be having any problem with Gays. Its just bullshit logic that girl-on-girl action is more natural, and man-on-man action is not.
Sushant Says:
December 26th, 2008 at 4:41 pmHomosexuality is a natural phenomenon based on brain wiring, only because it is different from majority it does not become unnatural. Every human has a right to choose their partner as per their liking. I know many people who are strictly against it as it being some kind of sin and such belief systems are deep rooted in male chauvinism. I hope as the society progresses we will be able to appreciate and accept homosexuality.
Soumya Says:
December 26th, 2008 at 9:38 pmActually, the Church’s drive against homosexuality is just about as old as the act itself. It existed since time immemorial. I’d hate to imagine that the church is slipping into increasing irrelevance, but I’d certainly wish that if there is a god up there, then she’s got better things to do than send homosexuals to hell for “sinning”… Oh, btw, a happy new year to you!
Soumya Says:
December 26th, 2008 at 10:33 pmThanks for dropping by. I replied to your comment on my post. By the way, if you really wanted to read something emotional, melodramatic e.t.c e.t.c (I somehow doubt it), you could probably try the post titled Liz on my blog…:-)
Incognito Says:
December 27th, 2008 at 12:11 am“Moral policing is the worst kind of tyranny a religious authority can divulge (indulge???) in.”
Pope is giving his message to his folks as per his interpretation of his religious belief. And its upto his Folks to decide what to do with his message.
Your reaction seems to be the sort of moral policing that you are accusing the Pope of…
Unpretentious Diva Says:
December 27th, 2008 at 12:24 am“Moral policing is the worst kind of tyranny a religious authority can divulge (indulge???) in.”
No it is Divulge. Divulge means to “proclaim publicly” .
About rest of your comment, I accept I am the moral authority at this Site, it is my property.
Incognito Says:
December 27th, 2008 at 1:32 amYou are :-)
Julie Phineas Says:
December 27th, 2008 at 12:06 pmsaving the world from the Catholic Church is MORE important than saving the rainforests.
ohamed Says:
December 27th, 2008 at 1:57 pmThe catholic church to my mind is an evil organization! and say what you want about Islam, but they are just a bush of loonies like Laden et al. But there is no organized goliath like the catholic church exists. And to be honest, I have not seen a single good act for humanity coming from the catholic church throughout its history! It is institutionalized tyranny.
GeL(Emerald Eyes) Says:
December 31st, 2008 at 10:40 amSuch views like this of the Catholic faith and governments anger me beyond words. We’re an open, march for ALL human rights, type of family. This world needs to realize that simple fact of equality for all humans, not judgments, not shoving one’s beliefs down the throat of others, but true equality!
Excellent post and glad you included photos instead of hiding them “behind doors that should NOT be closed.” FTR, I don’t believe in the concept of “sin” and thank goodness I’m not Catholic… I have enough guilt without the added ‘“sin” package.That’s a whole other blog post though. Yes, I do believe people commit wrongs, crimes, etc- Here, it is the Catholic Church’s beliefs thrust on others that whips through history with vicious velocity of wrongs that has affected too many good people.
Allytude Says:
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 amWhy would one listen to an old Virgin( supposedly) ,who wears long flowing robes and Prada shoes? Why would he know anything about anything?
Smitha Says:
January 7th, 2009 at 5:55 pmIts a joke that the Pope thinks its relevant to include this in his Christmas message! I totally agree with you when you say ‘after a number of paedophile scandals among the priesthood one might start to question if celibate priests and an insistence on straight sex only is always the right way. ’ and
‘Moral policing is the worst kind of tyranny a religious authority can divulge in.’ So true..
Unpretentious Diva Says:
January 9th, 2009 at 6:07 am‘Moral policing is the worst kind of tyranny a religious authority can divulge in.’ So true..
Yep very true. And such tyranny becomes unbearable when politicians and political parties start using them for their political bases and vote banks. In India, even such activities have been noticed upon. Be it congress run over promoting pseudo-secularism or BJP’s stand over promoting saffronism. So the point is, the ill of religious moral policing is pervasive and the ills need to be criticized. Because that’s the only way to defend against it.