Comments on: SatyarthPrakash—The Light Of Truth http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html Because everything has a reason! Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:52:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Karthik Murali http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html#comment-123 Karthik Murali Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:57:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=47#comment-123 hey..nice blog hey..nice blog

]]> By: CresceNet http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html#comment-122 CresceNet Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:42:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=47#comment-122 Hello. This post is likeable, and your blog is very interesting, congratulations :-). I will add in my blogroll =). If possible gives a last there on my site, it is about the <a HREF="http://www.provedorcrescenet.com" REL="nofollow">CresceNet</a>, I hope you enjoy. The address is http://www.provedorcrescenet.com . A hug.<a HREF="7006874765" REL="nofollow"></a> Hello. This post is likeable, and your blog is very interesting, congratulations :-) . I will add in my blogroll =). If possible gives a last there on my site, it is about the CresceNet, I hope you enjoy. The address is http://www.provedorcrescenet.com . A hug.

]]> By: Guilherme http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html#comment-121 Guilherme Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:21:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=47#comment-121 your blog are so beautiful!<br/>sucess!<br/>see you! your blog are so beautiful!
sucess!
see you!

]]> By: suren http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html#comment-120 suren Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:28:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=47#comment-120 :) i read it yaar and got what u meant.. just that one question left me wondering ! :) i read it yaar and got what u meant.. just that one question left me wondering !

]]> By: Me http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html#comment-119 Me Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:24:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=47#comment-119 @saurabh<br/>It is not very difficult.<br/>As Thomas reid accounted on perception,<br/><i>Colors, sounds, tastes and smells are powers to produce certain characteristic sensations in us in normal conditions; to ascribe such a quality to an object is not to perceive any intrinsic qualities of the object, but is, rather, to perceive that the object bears a certain relation to something else: namely, ourselves. So, for instance, say that the skin of the apple in front of me has a certain molecular structure that results in its reflecting light at a certain wavelength which in turn causes in me a certain characteristic visual sensation of red. If I am speaking correctly when I say, “That apple is red”, I am reporting the fact that I conceive of the apple as possessing a particular relational property: I am aware that the apple has the property of being-such-as-to-cause-in-me-sensations-of-red-in-normal-conditions.</i><br/>Actually, it is very simple reality, it is concept of Objectivity<br/><i>Objectivity is both a metaphysical and an epistemological concept. It pertains to the relationship of consciousness to existence. Metaphysically, it is the recognition of the fact that reality exists independent of any perceiver’s consciousness. Epistemologically, it is the recognition of the fact that a perceiver’s (man’s) consciousness must acquire knowledge of reality by certain means (reason) in accordance with certain rules (logic).</i><br/>The right perception of reason in accordance with certain natural rules(logic) provides the exact picture of reality.<br/>The dwelling in wrong perception although will cause chaos. @saurabh
It is not very difficult.
As Thomas reid accounted on perception,
Colors, sounds, tastes and smells are powers to produce certain characteristic sensations in us in normal conditions; to ascribe such a quality to an object is not to perceive any intrinsic qualities of the object, but is, rather, to perceive that the object bears a certain relation to something else: namely, ourselves. So, for instance, say that the skin of the apple in front of me has a certain molecular structure that results in its reflecting light at a certain wavelength which in turn causes in me a certain characteristic visual sensation of red. If I am speaking correctly when I say, “That apple is red”, I am reporting the fact that I conceive of the apple as possessing a particular relational property: I am aware that the apple has the property of being-such-as-to-cause-in-me-sensations-of-red-in-normal-conditions.
Actually, it is very simple reality, it is concept of Objectivity
Objectivity is both a metaphysical and an epistemological concept. It pertains to the relationship of consciousness to existence. Metaphysically, it is the recognition of the fact that reality exists independent of any perceiver’s consciousness. Epistemologically, it is the recognition of the fact that a perceiver’s (man’s) consciousness must acquire knowledge of reality by certain means (reason) in accordance with certain rules (logic).
The right perception of reason in accordance with certain natural rules(logic) provides the exact picture of reality.
The dwelling in wrong perception although will cause chaos.

]]> By: sourav http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html#comment-118 sourav Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:39:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=47#comment-118 well it is hard to understand post like this........but i must say yr standard of writing is very high<br/><br/>keep it up:) well it is hard to understand post like this……..but i must say yr standard of writing is very high

keep it up:)

]]> By: Adijo http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html#comment-117 Adijo Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:40:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=47#comment-117 veryy true<br/><br/>u can check out http://www.phi1618.com<br/><br/>good write-up!!!<br/><br/>Adijo veryy true

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]]> By: Me http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html#comment-116 Me Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:25:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=47#comment-116 @suren<br/>why didn't you read the whole comment? <br/>What is reason/rational? it is opposite of chaos. <br/>it is (the faculty which identifies and integrates the material provided by man's senses)it is the cognitive ability, the conscious, the ability to think clearly and coherently, it is the ability to think logically regarded as a basis for knowledge, as distinct from experience or emotions. It is the motive or cause for acting or thinking in a particular way. Chaos itself is unrealistic as its unjustifiable. Reason is man's only means of perceiving reality, his only source of knowledge, his only guide to action, and his basic means of survival.<br/>Now if some one is stressing more on his biased emotions and perceptions and tending to take chaos as reality and following it too, then it is his irrational behavior. He has to face it… but he cannot be allowed to disrupt and disturb the integrity and life of other individuals, like that Virginia Killer did. It must be avoided. That is for what Individual rights are made of, and the non-static democracy is to provide protection of Individual rights. @suren
why didn’t you read the whole comment?
What is reason/rational? it is opposite of chaos.
it is (the faculty which identifies and integrates the material provided by man’s senses)it is the cognitive ability, the conscious, the ability to think clearly and coherently, it is the ability to think logically regarded as a basis for knowledge, as distinct from experience or emotions. It is the motive or cause for acting or thinking in a particular way. Chaos itself is unrealistic as its unjustifiable. Reason is man’s only means of perceiving reality, his only source of knowledge, his only guide to action, and his basic means of survival.
Now if some one is stressing more on his biased emotions and perceptions and tending to take chaos as reality and following it too, then it is his irrational behavior. He has to face it… but he cannot be allowed to disrupt and disturb the integrity and life of other individuals, like that Virginia Killer did. It must be avoided. That is for what Individual rights are made of, and the non-static democracy is to provide protection of Individual rights.

]]> By: Jshree http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html#comment-115 Jshree Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:39:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=47#comment-115 U have gr8 standards of writing.. Keep going U have gr8 standards of writing.. Keep going

]]> By: suren http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html#comment-114 suren Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:31:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=47#comment-114 rational is real ? <br/>was it rationality which evolved first or reality. rational is real ?
was it rationality which evolved first or reality.

]]> By: Me http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html#comment-113 Me Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:45:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=47#comment-113 @suren<br/>What is rational is real and it is ideal.<br/> <b>1>Reality exists as an objective absolute—facts are facts, independent of man's feelings, wishes, hopes or fears.</b><br/>So, if one is a dettached a dispassionate impartial unbiased person, one can observe the objectivity of facts better. His biasedness may illude him though, drift him from the reality away from the realms of objectivity to the realms of subjectivity.<br/>(Where he may meet Kant)<br/><b>2>Reason (the faculty which identifies and integrates the material provided by man's senses) is man's only means of perceiving reality, his only source of knowledge, his only guide to action, and his basic means of survival.</b><br/><br/>Reasons are not dependent on Man, they are the authority the faculty of Man, which helps the Man to percieve reality.<br/>Perceptions are subjective. Reasons are objective. Knowledge is always in degree.<br/><b>3>Man, every man,is an end in himself, not the means to the ends of others. He must exist for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others nor sacrificing others to himself. The pursuit of his own rational self-interest and of his own happiness is the highest moral purpose of his life</b><br/>Virtue of selfishness.<br/><br/>One(I) must not sacrifice others for myself(my pleasure) nor i must sacrifice myself for others pleasure/help etc.<br/>If I am an objectivist(I do not care if I am not) Than I cannot waste myself in criticising and abusing others, pointing out at their weaknesses or strongholds. I would not try to help those who do not deserve, I would not try to avoid helping them who do deserves it.<br/>Why?<br/>Because it will provide me happiness. @suren
What is rational is real and it is ideal.
1>Reality exists as an objective absolute—facts are facts, independent of man’s feelings, wishes, hopes or fears.
So, if one is a dettached a dispassionate impartial unbiased person, one can observe the objectivity of facts better. His biasedness may illude him though, drift him from the reality away from the realms of objectivity to the realms of subjectivity.
(Where he may meet Kant)
2>Reason (the faculty which identifies and integrates the material provided by man’s senses) is man’s only means of perceiving reality, his only source of knowledge, his only guide to action, and his basic means of survival.

Reasons are not dependent on Man, they are the authority the faculty of Man, which helps the Man to percieve reality.
Perceptions are subjective. Reasons are objective. Knowledge is always in degree.
3>Man, every man,is an end in himself, not the means to the ends of others. He must exist for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others nor sacrificing others to himself. The pursuit of his own rational self-interest and of his own happiness is the highest moral purpose of his life
Virtue of selfishness.

One(I) must not sacrifice others for myself(my pleasure) nor i must sacrifice myself for others pleasure/help etc.
If I am an objectivist(I do not care if I am not) Than I cannot waste myself in criticising and abusing others, pointing out at their weaknesses or strongholds. I would not try to help those who do not deserve, I would not try to avoid helping them who do deserves it.
Why?
Because it will provide me happiness.

]]> By: suren http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html#comment-112 suren Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:58:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=47#comment-112 agreed !<br/>is it something like <br/>"what is ideal is real and that is real is rational"? which can be achieved by a rational mind alone !<br/><br/>for argument sake what would be your take on -<br/>a mind can be shaped in a particular manner based on what it sees ! isn't there a chance for one to see chaos all around and assume chaos as the rational one ? to him can't it appear to be rational too ? agreed !
is it something like
“what is ideal is real and that is real is rational”? which can be achieved by a rational mind alone !

for argument sake what would be your take on -
a mind can be shaped in a particular manner based on what it sees ! isn’t there a chance for one to see chaos all around and assume chaos as the rational one ? to him can’t it appear to be rational too ?

]]> By: Amit Vibhuti http://www.reasonforliberty.com/atheism/satyarthprakash%e2%80%94the-light-of-truth.html#comment-111 Amit Vibhuti Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:35:00 +0000 http://www.reasonforliberty.com/?p=47#comment-111 Good one. Keep up.. Good one. Keep up..

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