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Why Participation of Indian citizens in elections is reducing?
In a democracy[1] if a majority of voting population ranging from several hundreds to several hundred millions (depending on level of election –Municipal, state, or national) vote against an existing policy, the policy will likely be changed, replaced or aborted. That does not mean that electorate controls government. As far as an individual citizen is concerned, he has no control over the democratic majority government. For example, in the government controlled retirement savings account and pension policies, if an individual wishes to use his earned savings to pay for the home he want to buy, he must wait until tens of millions of other citizens agrees to join with him to bring about a change in policy to make it possible. He would have to wait for very basic decisions to be made, if a set of parents in a village decide to have a school in their village where their children may get elementary education instead of going to another village 10 miles away, they may be forced to wait until whole majority voters of the city municipality under which the village comes, may decide to make an elementary school in that village. An Individual cannot decide to speculate and accumulate stocks of commodities to ascertain future profits, he cannot decide what prices he can demand from the consumers for his own products, he cannot decide to free a certain sector of production of varied levies and taxes (and subsidies) until he may not gain the approval of big chunk of voters.
If a set of intelligent voters want to restrict government monopoly over printing of fiat currency[2] , they will have to wait until whole populace of the country realizes the basic flaw in fiat currency. An individual by his own cannot decide what wages he may give to a worker, he cannot decide whom he should consider poor or whom he should provide voluntary charity or benevolent help as all relief funds are controlled by the majority rule government and so on. Since an individual electorate have no significant control over government bribery, corruption and frauds are common illnesses of democracies.
As people are realizing the fact that government control under democracy means collectivization of power and hence is a violation of Individual liberty and freedom of choice, that majority government robs the citizens of their power of self-governance and self-responsibility, they voluntarily become uninterested in political elections as they know that their mere voting is in no way capable of bringing about any progressive change.
Destruction of Individual Causal Role in Democracy
Democracy destroys the causal role of an individual. Instead of being the cause of his own success, well-being, and development, he becomes dependent on the majority rule, as until the majority will not agree with him, he cannot act upon his decisions and choices. The destruction of Individual causal role in his life signifies the violation of Individual freedom.
Individual freedom and his right of self-governance are the basic requirement for a definite progressive and developed system of division of labour[3] . Thus, democracy robs and reduces the power of an individual to be the cause of varied economic achievements, success or failure.
Incompatibility of Democracy with Division of Labour causing Poverty
In a socialist bureaucratic system (like that of former USSR or China) the specialized dictators represented by “central planners” controls all the resources and means of production, as irrespective of their specialization, they lacks knowledge in compared to the knowledge pool provided by free society under division of labour, they never achieves enough rate of progress and suffers impoverishment, poverty, injustice and unhealthy conditions for the common man. In a democratic socialist system (like that of India), situations are even adverse as the specific set of specialized dictators is replaced by the ignorant, unspecialized masses representing majority rule. When such system tries to provide a systematically regulated division of labour, it results in contradicting partial planning under the head of different ministries trying to control different sets of productions and that further provides economic chaos, corruption, bribery and further partial slavery of individuals making them to suffer poverty and extreme scarcity of wealth.
Cure of the Problem
Since the fall of Soviet Union, India is gradually turning from collectivism towards principles of self-ownership, individualism and division of labour, and hence the standards of living is improving, of Indian society are also improving. As the Indian government is adopting disinvestment procedure and providing freedom for market and individuals, the proficiency of labour is increasing. The progress itself is a validating example of the fact that government interventions in market cause poverty, reduction in production and impoverishment of citizens while individual freedom, and property rights of means of production brings progress, prosperity and bettering living standards of citizens. Thus, the cure is definitely freedom of citizens establishing a free society in India, that is Limited government system, where the only purpose of government remains to safeguard individual freedom, property rights, restrict initiation of force and to provide justice, and peace by providing a democratic system controlling police and law bodies, strictly maintaining the principles of non-initiation of aggression, self-ownership and property rights, and all means of production including roads, railways, natural resources etc be privatized.
Private security and arbitrary third party justice system would further reduce the role of government only to provide security against external dangers in form of national defence, it would be further move towards anarchocapitalism[5] establishing individual right of self governance and self-responsibility.
It is a basic fact that government monopoly in any form including limited government system represents partial slavery to some order and incurs poverty[6] and destruction of wealth and means of production, for progress and betterment of citizens, freedom lovers advocates Anarchocapitalism[5] rather than government limiting individual freedom.
- The Impasse of Democracy, voting is not a solution, it is a killer [↩]
- Fiat currency Versus Gold Standard, Privatization of Money [↩]
- Division of Labour, Productivity and Prosperity of Labour [↩]
- Freedom, meaning and importance [↩]
- Defending Anarchy, Reason For Liberty [↩] [↩]
- Population, Production and Poverty, Cure of Poverty [↩]
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Baljinder Singh Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:40 amhere you said something about Self governance,no doubt the idea of right to self governance and and self responsibility are welcome,but again in case of self governance,is it like the individual sets his own rules and regulations for his/her own business and trade?…if yes then again there is a possibility of corruption and bribery,because the traders or the businessmen would again decide the terms which are in favor of them and benefit them completely and may even not pay attention to the issues of the labors and the serving population…..if there some way to regulate this aspect because it is possible that the Traders and Businessmen may bribe the Govt.Officials for their benefits…..Also i have request…tell me some thing more about Anarcho-Capitalism…and also tell me what should i start reading to know some thing more about these topics because i am a Beginner…..
Unpretentious Diva Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:05 pmAnd how is that a possibility of corruption? If a businessman has freedom to set his own terms and rules, the worker also have his own freedom to set his own terms and rules.
If the worker won’t agree for businessman’s terms and rules, he won’t work for it, without essential work, the businessman would loose. Also, if the worker’s demands are senseless, the businessman won’t agree for it and won’t take his work, without essential employer, worker won’t gain any profit. So obviously both will have to agree for their own profits. Where is corruption in there?
It is simply like you go to buy some potatoes and tomatoes. You ask the vegetable vendor for the price of tomatoes and potatoes, he tells you the amount he wishes to gain for his product, and you bargain, because you do not want to pay him that much. If you and the seller won’t agree to a price which provides him enough profit and which provide you satisfaction too, than you won’t but potatoes from him, rather would go to other person.
its your freedom to buy from anyone with whom you feel good while making the deal.
Also, if you meant that all producers/businessmen will make collective rules to exploit workers, than its not possible because in free-market, there is always scarcity of workers and labour. The reason for scarcity is simple, we as consumers demand and desire much more than out and total labour’s capacity to work and produce. Hence labour and workers are always scarce and hence in demand.
Since there is scarcity of workers, no businessman would like to loose workers, and he will loose workers if he won’t care for them.
Let’s say there are two producers/businessmen in a ward of a city who produces shoes. Both of them need 20 workers each for the required production. Let’s say businessman A is harsh and rude, cunning and miser, he don’t pay the workers well, talks rash etc.
The businessman B, just in order to increase his production and hence increase consumers and profits, would like to increase his labor force, since he is better one and he understand that by caring more about workers, he may gain profits, he provide better deal for the workers of that ward than what the Businessman A provides (better terms, better salary etc). Obviously all 40 available workers would like to work for Businessperson B rather than for A and A will loose his workers, his profits and market, his production house will stop.
In order to exist in market, Businessman A need to care for the workers better (or at least as good as B do).
With government interventions though, the workers, the businessmen and the consumers all suffers because it increases unemployment.
How?
See in same condition, the government intervenes, and decide a minimum wage of say Rs 100 per day for the workers.
Now businessman A and B who used to employ the workers previously at Rs 80 per day for 20 workers each, their total investment in labor was Rs1600 per day, as the minimum wage designed by government is Rs100 which makes total investment needed for 20 workers equal to Rs 2000.
Since neither Businessman A nor B has that much amount to give to workers everyday, they decide to limit their workers and hence instead of giving work to 20 workers each, they would give work to only 16 workers each, that will make 4 workers of businessman A’s workforce, and 4 workers of Businessman B’s workforce to suffer UNEMPLOYMENT, they won’t have work to do, so they will suffer.
Also, since now workers are less, the work done would also be less, production would be less and hence the profit of Businessmen A and B would also be less, and hence they will also suffer.
Also, since production is less, demand of shoes still is high, the price of shoes will increase and hence consumers will also suffer.
So who will gain from government’s intervention?
No one, all will suffer.
In addition, let’s say the businessman A is sikh, Businessman B is Hindu, 10 workers out of total 40 are christians, other 10 are muslims, other 10 are sikhs and remaining 10 are hindus.
When there was no government intervention, no minimum wages, Businessman A and B used to employ any worker irrespective of his religion on the basis of employing that worker who performs better and more work at least prices.
Since now government intervened and decided a minimum wage, their is no incentive for the Sikh businessman to employ muslim or christian workers, since he need only 16 workers now, he would predominantly employ 10 sikh workers (as there are only 10 sikh workers) and 6 hindu workers while discriminating against muslims and christians.
Similarly the hindu businessman would also like to employ Hindu or sikh workers instead of employing christian and muslims irrespective of their talent because now he has to give same amount of salary to all with no incentive.
That will not only create religious conflicts, it will also create discrimination and force the workers of some particular religion to suffer much more unemployment and poverty.
Overall, by government interventions, every one will suffer and face dangers of riots, conflicts, poverty, lack of production, wastage and price hikes.
Although if there is no government, things will be peaceful as they will go according to their mutual agreements.
Baljinder Singh Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:29 pmlol.. i liked the way explained it to me …..now you did got how ignorant i m about free-market and Capitalism….i need your help to learn more about this….and these fundaas are to be made reachable to all the students in our country.
I think the concept of free market really works,but is somewhat hard to implement in India but not impossible, it will take some time for the Indians to get it, but is really beneficial for a Nation Like India.
Keep on sending me the links on all such new things you publish on the site.
Thank you
deadmanoncampus Says:
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:39 pmBaljinder Singh,
Corruption and bribery are more likely to happen under a Government. (It should be noted that in some cases corruption and bribery are good and justified-For instance a tax collector helping a businessman to evade taxes. It could be considered wrong only if we assume that the Government has a rightful claim to the money of innocent citizens. Government shouldn’t have such a right.) A private individual is risking his own funds in a business; hence it would be extremely hard to corrupt him. The Government bureaucrat or politician, on the other hand is risking the funds of other people. He is easy to corrupt. A private individual has both a moral and financial incentive to be honest. A Government bureaucrat or politician has only a moral incentive to do his work honestly. So who is more likely to be corrupt? If you want to prevent businessmen bribing Government officials, what you should support is the abolition of the Government-Not a regulated market. Businessmen bribe politicians and bureaucrats only because they hold the power. Why should some people given such life and death powers over others?
It is the selfish interests of the businessmen which results in high wages for the laborers and good products for the common man. If they want to make profits, they can’t ignore the interests of the workers and consumers. There is no need for Government intervention here. The market is self regulating.
I have written a post on Anarcho Capitalism( Defending Anarchy) on this website. Here is the link:
http://www.reasonforliberty.com/government/defending-anarchy.html
The best book to start with is Morris and Linda Tannehill’s “The Market For Liberty”. It is available for free download at http://www.mises.org
You just have to go to the literature section of the website and search.
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K Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:14 amLet me guess - you’re 17; you’ve just moved out of your parents’ house; you’ve read some Ayn Rand.
I couldnt go through the entire post (try synthesis), but here’s a chunk from para 2 -
He would have to wait for very basic decisions to be made, if a set of parents in a village decide to have a school in their village where their children may get elementary education instead of going to another village 10 miles away, they may be forced to wait until whole majority voters of the city municipality under which the village comes, may decide to make an elementary school in that village.
>> The government does not stop them from pooling in resources and starting their own school. Do you really expect the government to use the majority’s money without asking the majority? Well, I’d like a private jet and airstrip - damn the govt, I’ll have to get the majority vote on that too!
An Individual cannot decide to speculate and accumulate stocks of commodities to ascertain future profits, he cannot decide what prices he can demand from the consumers for his own products, he cannot decide to free a certain sector of production of varied levies and taxes (and subsidies) until he may not gain the approval of big chunk of voters
>> Taxes make the schools you talk about in your previous para - if it was each man’s free will to decide whether he wants to pay taxes, who’d pay?
Unpretentious Diva Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 12:34 amK said
How ignorant are you? Are you a kid of 10?
Government exactly restricts individuals to start a school (even for starting up an elementary school, an Individual need permissions from government, sanctions from MLA’s, without license, if you start a school, its illegal, and can be raided anytime, there are some such illegal schools in CAPITAL of India, Delhi too, the education ministry officials and inspectors keep raiding such schools to earn bribes, and if the school owners won’t bribe them, the schools will be closed.
But that was talk of only Elementary schools, above that, you need certifications from government bodies (education boards) you also need to comply with government policy of wages and pension for teachers, overall, its almost impossible for a village residents to start up a quality school without taking permissions. They need certification and affiliations from some government education board too. That is reality.
On the contrary, taxes reduces the progress of education to Much great extent, as the control of government over education system burdens tax-payers with unnecessary bureaucrats, corrupt politicians and officials, and worthless education boards, government teachers and so on.
Here is educative information for you about What Are Taxes, http://www.reasonforliberty.com/reason/what-really-are-taxes.html, (but you are lazybones uff!)
If made free, private free-education system will prove a success even in villages just like it proves its success in cities too (although charges of private schooling in cities is high, thanks to the cost of various corrupt systems of government from which a school owner/director need to take permissions).
If resources and money won’t be wasted upon that redundant education ministry, bureaucrats and political system, obviously, it would be easy for individuals to collect resources/money on mututal agreement grounds and apply it much more efficiently to have much better education institutes with independent systems. Also, any education entrepreneur would like to invest in education sector in villages for making profits too MUCH.
Just like taxes failed to provide good telecommunication services for Indians when Telecommunication sector was under grips of Indian government, while after liberalization of telecommunication sector, Dhiru Bhai Ambani’s Reliance, then Airtel, Vodafone and many more telecommunication and ISP providers got success in providing almost every Indian the power of communication(and now even internet can be used at remote places of India at minimal costs) the money saved from the corrupt taxation system of government would be used to make quality education available for almost everyone, while everyone would be free to choose what type of education he want for himself/or siblings/children. Don’t you find it contradictory to your myths? Even without taking taxes (looting you), Reliance, Airtel etc provide you much better telecommunication facilities than what government used to provide you before 1995 when government disinvest Telecommunication department of india(DOT).
Infact, if government is not allowed to loot Indians, and Indian entrepreneurs (like it loots the telecommunication and ISP providers by charging them for licenses and ofcourse income taxes) tele-services will be much more sophisticated, satisfactory, modern and cheaper. Government and Taxes restricts progress in every sense.
Its basic fact, any reasonable person can surmise it. (you failed there).
I can analyze what a lazybones you are, anyways, when you did not find this post enough deserving a read, why did you commented over it? Is wasting time your personal hobby??
Now the last thing
I read Rand when I was 13, I kept admiring till I was 19, I started thinking above her since I was 21 and Now I criticize for her part of subjectivism when I am 24, Now I write, I produce, I am way superior than Rand, I produce on what ever raw material she provided.
I read Austrian economics, I do read Locke, Bastiat, Adam Smith John Menger, Hayek, Hazzlit, Ludwig Von Mises, and now I am starting to read Rothbard too (since some days). So you are very wrong at guessing.
Anyways, thanks for visit.
Baljinder Singh Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 7:36 amok…Thanks to “deadmanoncampus”….i got your point…yaar i m relly interested to learn about these things..free-market is really going to make a difference in the future if implemented in India and other countries as well…i do need help of scholars like u to learn about this…thanks a lot!!
K Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 11:32 amRegarding schools -
There are two issues here -
1. is the education policy worthwhile?
2. is it executed well?
I agree that there is much to be done on the execution front (in all spheres of the government) - but I thought you were arguing against policy in your article. Corruption does not deem the policy unfit. Especially the fact that the consensus of the majority is sought while funding infrastructure/development projects.
btw, all the affiliations are not mandatory. To give an example, the Indian School of Business is NOT AICTE affiliated, its not UGC approved. On legal terms its equivalent to an Aptech/NIIT centre.
And did I forget to mention, its not an elementary school; it happens to be one of the best B-schools in Asia.
Your second comment’s pretty long. Hence, will reply in-line
On the contrary, taxes reduces the progress of education to Much great extent, as the control of government over education system burdens tax-payers with unnecessary bureaucrats, corrupt politicians and officials, and worthless education boards, government teachers and so on.
>>>> Taxes dont reduce the progress of education. Finland and Singapore have some of the best education systems in the world (refer PIRLS, PISA or TIMMS; of course its easier to rant on otherwise). Both run on state collected taxes. So its not the system of taxes and public education that fails us, its government machinery - the execution arm.
Here is educative information for you about What Are Taxes, http://www.reasonforliberty.com/reason/what-really-are-taxes.html, (but you are lazybones uff!)
>>> You’re right, wont read that
If made free, private free-education system will prove a success even in villages just like it proves its success in cities too (although charges of private schooling in cities is high, thanks to the cost of various corrupt systems of government from which a school owner/director need to take permissions).
>>> Are you unaware that we do have private schools in villages - 28% of villages have access to a private school in India (as of 2005). there are three types of schools in india -government run schools, government aided private schools, and private unaided schools. While the first two are more or less indistinguishable, the third is free to do what it wishes (more-or-less).
If resources and money won’t be wasted upon that redundant education ministry, bureaucrats and political system, obviously, it would be easy for individuals to collect resources/money on mututal agreement grounds and apply it much more efficiently to have much better education institutes with independent systems.
>>>> Kind of agree with your statement here. But, once again, its not fact based, is preachy and stinks of paranoia. Here are some facts that you may use - government schools pay 2-3 times higher salaries to teachers as compared to private schools (Read world bank report on education in india, 2008). Yet, teacher absenteeism is rampant (25% according to Harvard/ WB report, Nov 2004) and next to sub saharan Uganda. Yet only 1 in 3000 principals ever fired a teacher for repeated absenteeism (same study)! In 2006, only 1% schools were ever inspected in Rajasthan despite having a full fledged cadre of inspectors. Moreover, private schools fare much better on independent third party assessment (~15% higher) on Pratham ASER (google ASER if you’re unaware).
Also, any education entrepreneur would like to invest in education sector in villages for making profits too MUCH.
>>>>>Oh thats already happened, and in a big way - havent you heard of Pratham, educational initiatives, Bharti Foundation (600 shcools in the past 2 years), WIPRO foundation, ISE . I think what you meant was that schools cant make money from kids. Well, in theory yes - that could and should be formally changed to reflect that which is already happening.
Just like taxes failed to provide good telecommunication services for Indians when Telecommunication sector was under grips of Indian government, while after liberalization of telecommunication sector, Dhiru Bhai Ambani’s Reliance, then Airtel, Vodafone and many more telecommunication
>>>> I’m a bit of a nitpicker. it was airtel and then ambani
and ISP providers got success in providing almost every Indian the power of communication(and now even internet can be used at remote places of India at minimal costs) the money saved from the corrupt taxation system of government would be used to make quality education available for almost everyone, while everyone would be free to choose what type of education he want for himself/or siblings/children. Don’t you find it contradictory to your myths? Even without taking taxes (looting you), Reliance, Airtel etc provide you much better telecommunication facilities than what government used to provide you before 1995 when government disinvest Telecommunication department of india(DOT).
>>>> Agreed. But there are some practical implications of the conservatism. Will write at leisure.
Infact, if government is not allowed to loot Indians, and Indian entrepreneurs (like it loots the telecommunication and ISP providers by charging them for licenses and ofcourse income taxes) tele-services will be much more sophisticated, satisfactory, modern and cheaper. Government and Taxes restricts progress in every sense.
>>>> Do not agree. Taxes are essential. Without taxes who would pay to build roads in villages, which is not “financially profitable”? Who would provide healthcare to the poor? The free market would let them die - who cares, they dont contribute to society anyways! Who would invest in power plants to provide electricity at minimal rates to farmers so that we can avoid a famine. Who would build warehouses and store grain in case we do have a famine? Its not profitable - we end up spending crores on these warehouses, yet hardly ever (luckily!) use them. But if we were to have a famine, god help the 1 billion + of us
There are merits and demerits to govt decisions on what to fund with public money. But to do away with it altogether is insane.
for example, we have the commonwealth games that will bring a lot of tourists ( and hence moeny) to India. Its a net positive for India. But who would fund for the development of the city required to updgrade the capital? While everybody benefits - from the roadside chai wala to the airlines. No one industry/individual can bear the development cost and be profitable. This is where govt intervention is required. Take a piece of the pie from everybody and spread it across. Its not exact - not everybody benefits equally, but well its better than not having any. Do you suggest an alternative?
Its basic fact, any reasonable person can surmise it. (you failed there)
>>>Yeah, sure
>>>
>>> 1. Yeah, I am lazy. to the core.
Its one of these - take a guess
Unpretentious Diva Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 6:21 pm1>Collectivist education system/policy infact is not education but Indoctrination, Indoctrination is simply corruption and fraud, nothing else and hence, it is worthless. Obviously it decreases the productivity of Human resource and hence forces them to poverty, scarcity and ill-environment.
2>Government always use education system as a tool of indoctrinations to keep common citizen under control, obviously, the success of government and its policies is evident in your baseless assumption that government is necessary. On rational premises it is neither necessary, nor affordable, that is why scarcity (of work, wealth, resources) under a collectivist system can never be solved out to any satisfactory degree.
Lol some fools even do not need Indoctrination, and who told you that Indian School of Business is free of government interventions? Infact it is a collaborated venture of State Government of Andhra Pradesh an some 500 individual entrepreneurs. Without government’s permission they could even not have gained the required land to start a college.
Niether Aptech or NIIT centers are staged without the required permissions of Government, yes that is true that Indian government “allows/Grants” private education systems too, its prerogative of government. So in no way in any city or in that above discussed village, some people could have made a school, if without taking permissions, they might have, it would have been an illegal act.
And BTW, it is a fact for all sort of schools of any level, be it elementary or higher or whatever.
Again same indoctrinated rant from a slave of government.
Why don’t you mention Nigeria, Omaan or India itself? Government education system are not only a failure, they are ruining the society too.
Now when the private education bodies are taking the responsibility of educating poor children, the education, quality and results are improving. Even in India, although private sector of education is totally dependent on government’s whims, it is the major force of improving literacy and education in India. (while government system predominantly failed).
Now about Singapore and Finland,, first of all, I or you do not need to talk about that, because the basic truth is, if government of Singapore and finland keep itself out of education system, the quality of education will increase much more there.
Second thing is, why should one not take thee responsibility of educating his/her own child or the child he/she chooses to help because he/she likes/loves her by her own wish and freedom? Why should one be a slave to government to obey its order and pay the price of living by means of taxes?
One more thing, Maria Montessori, and her Indian disciple S.R Swami have already proved that for a better and progressive education, one doesn’t need government, what one needs is restriction on government interventions.
On the other hand, some people like you may say that Mussolini and his government might have been much successful in education sector, than the single Lady Maria Montessori, but alas!, that is not the case.
Lol, poor lad, I was talking of the left 72%, so what is bigger? 28% or 72%?
And No private school/or college or university of India is free (or deserving to be called as Private( as all such so-called private educative institutes depends on the permits, licenses, affiliations and certification from Indian or state government and that Increases corruption, wastage of resources, as resources are already scarce, it is necessary to stop wastage, the only way is be free, without economic freedom, political freedom holds no value.
Anyways, now when private educative bodies can get success even with the extra burden of government and its regulations, it is self-evident that totally private education system will be much more successful than what we have right now.
If you really believe in your own ****, than you are also a **** and nothing else.
For your information, I am a trusty of a private school known as Arya Kanya Vidyalaya, a body of Arya Samaj, which is providing private education since the times Of Dayanand Saraswati. I do know what kind of freedom my school have, it is hugely dependent on government. not more or less.
It is not dependent on government for monetary aids, as the school is always a profitable business despite of the fact that the school provides the best and cheapest education possible under government interventions. it is dependent on government because government keeps intervening, and school administration has no option but to bear the wrothless interventions and the wastage, apart from that, the course government forces on schools and students is worthless.
What a **** you are? that is wastage. Despite all high unnecessary salaries, government schools are big failure.
And how do government provide those high salaries to those worthless government teachers?
By looting the honest, innocent and helpless tax-payers? Lol so government is acting like robinhood, engaged in looting the honest wealth producers and distributing it in lazy, incompetent and worthless school teachers and all other government officials and politicians, administrators and others affiliated to the collective robbery?
So I need to reiterate, not a single education body, even the TATA memorial education institute working in Bhopal slums to teach poorest kids of Bhopal is free or totally private, it is hugely marred and burdened with Government interventions and if government interventions are removed, such private schools (which will be really private and free in absence of government interventions) would provide much better results.
About the example of Uganda, it is similar case of that of Omaan, the private education bodies are providing much better results.
and who told you that it is not financially profitable? As a matter of fact, Indian government was unable to provide any better road system in Laddakh, but with the advent of private bodies like Tata motors and Maruti-sujuki etc in Ladakh, now road systems are improving much faster even in that type of remote places.
By the way privatization of roads is not only practicable but it is necessity of India.
here is a thorough research for you on privatization of roads Privatization Of Roads (Click on it)
it covers all the possible arguments and doubts you may put forth and provide satisfactory answers to all of those redundant doubts.
One may question, will roads reach to villages? Actually yes, if roads are privatized, even the remote places will be connected with roads. Why do banks, and private telecommunication companies’ keeps trying to reach to place farthest? Why there are Maruti service stations even in Ladakh where even the government failed to provide efficient road systems?
As a matter of fact, Indian government is allready thinking of privatizing not only roads but railway system too, and that would be a further sign of improvement.
Government doesn’t provide or care for any healthcare to poor. here is the fact report on that Indian Health Care- An Overview (Click on it)
As a matter of fact privatization of education and healthcare will make more (almost all Indian poor) able to have quality education and healthcare. The report provides solution to the Indian healthcare problems too.
Here is one more report
Socialized healthcare System and Healthcare Requirements of India (Click on it)
By the way, we do have some doctors too on our authors board.
Electricity production and electricity distribution should completely be free of government, that is the most necessary condition for the removal of extreme electricity shortage we suffer and the famines we suffer.
Free market Individuals would invest in production and distribution of electricity in every part of India because that is a huge sector of making profits, also, the poor indians willl get much better power facilities and services at much less prices.
By the way who forces Indian farmers to commit suicide?
its Indian government who forces Indian farmers to commit suicide.
here is a report on that too How Government Kills poor Farmers, The GM genocide (Click on it)
Now before you ask further redundant questions like who will provide security and justice, let me answer it in advance
The issue has already been discussed here
The Prospects of Private Judicial System In India (Click on it)
And
Third party Arbitration In India (Click on it)
And here
Defending Anarchy (Click on it)
All of the remaining part of your comment is equally worthless as the previous was.
other question you may ask is who will print the money? Lol.
Here is the Answer to that too
Fiat currency Versus Gold Standard-privatization of Currency (click on link and read it)
That is the only possible take you lazyass.
the problem is, until you wont get rid of your laziness and try to learn and gain more reasonable knowledge, you will be forced to remain a slave forced to accept your abysmal fate under the hands of government, and will keep mocking against your own existence by bickering against ill-policies of government, corruption and all.
So my Advice is do read the provided links and think over it with an Open Mind.
Also, you raised an essentially worthless issue, (who cares for poor).
The only way to help poor and infact poverty to any significant extent is, REMOVE GOVERNMENT or limit it from intervening in Economy. Government inflict poverty on citizens as government is wastage of resources.
I care for poor as I am poor myself. I know Government does not care for me, But I do care for myself.
How the problem of poverty can be solved ?
Here is a further report for you to read and understand
Population, Poverty and Production (click on it).
To understand the issue of “How to help poor” you need to learn this too
Division Of Labour, Productivity and Prosperity of Labour. (Click on it)
By the way, corruption is the direct result of government policy, the policy of government to intervene in economic system and market.
TC!
k Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 6:58 pmI am sure you have no long standing critics. Your reason prevents any
Nishant (┼They Say I Died┼) Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 1:05 pmHello Unpretentious Diva,
Is it only with the democratic system which destroys an individual’s casual role or with other systems as well?
Thank You.
Unpretentious Diva Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 1:17 pmNishant
It is the characteristic of all collectivist system, any form of collectivism destroys an Individual’s causal role.
As I mentioned in the article itself.
Thus collectivism in any form like feudalism, communism, dictatorship, democracy, socialism, theocracy etc destroys Individual causation (causal role).
Nishant (┼They Say I Died┼) Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 1:47 pm@Unpretentious Diva:
Thanks for that.
The reference taken in this context is India for describing the limited government scenario. Though collectively, all systems have been dealt in short here. Your argument is perfect.
Unpretentious Diva Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 7:04 pmLimited government never existed anywhere in the world, the most close system to limited government was of USA of the times of 1900 to 1020. Aftr great inflation, even US moved away from limited government.
Previously India had feudal system, system of kingship, it is also a collective system,
Limited government means minimum or infact no government.
There is no need of government anywhere in the world, worldwide.
Nishant Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pmWhat is a kingship then? Isnt it the minimum use of governance? Isnt it limited governance which once india & other countries had?
Unpretentious Diva Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pmKingship is feudalism it is collectivism, it means that a single dictator decide for whole collection of individuals and the individual have no causal role.
I already stated that collectivism in all forms (democracy, kingships, dictatorships, socialism,communism, theocracy) destroys individual causal role, his freedom.
In Kingship/dictatorship, no individual is free, he is slave of dictator/king.
Monarchy is collectivism, it destroys Individual freedom and his causal role.
Kingship, dictatorship, socialism, communism, democracy all are Monarchies.
They destroys Individual freedom and his causal role.
Monarchy is not limited government, it is totalitarian government, the government has total power.
Limited government means minimum or not control of government on individual’s life, and hence individual is free.
Nishant Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 9:00 pmThen the term TOTAL POWER has been misused. Because it doesn’t mean something evil. It has been assumed evil here. As I have said, it is only possible to implement the limited government form only when people want it. The problem is that we always assume that the individual never has or had any role in any form of government & then we try to solve their problem by proposing a model. But the truth is that the people depend so much on another forms to represent them & help them that they lose their individual freedom on their own. Hence no form of government is an evil. It reflects the ideology of the people. The collectivism is the reality the people want to see through a form of government. So be it any form of government or no government at all, the ultimate solution is spiritual in nature & depends upon the individuals in the first place. Because people came first. Through them exists the governments or nothing at all! So instead of claiming any destruction of individual freedom from the threat of forms of government, the people should change themselves to change their reality! Do you agree?
Unpretentious Diva Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 9:21 pmit is not misused, it has been explained, you suffer from too much Ignorance.
Monarchy or dictatorship is something like havinh Hitler as your lord. Why should he be allowed to kill and murder and butcher you?
Monarchy is totalitarianism just like socialism or communism is. In a totalitarian government, you cannot decide what you will eat and howw much, you cannot decide what you will write or sing or read, the government will decide it through censorships, you cannot decide how much you should work or gain, the government will decide your salary and not the free mutual agreeable norms of your and your employers. You even cannot decide what you want to grow or produce, Totalitarian government means complete slavery of yours, as for example, British rulers in india had a totlitarian government under the monarchy of Queen of Britain.
if you think slavery is not evil, and instead of demanding freedom from Britishers, indians needed to change themselves to accept the monarchy of british empire, than well for you it may not be evil.
It is proven evil, that is why it ended, we are improving from worst to bad, and are forwarding towards good.
yes thAt is good point, it is a problem that need to be eradicated.
Now you are wrong here, people do not depend on each other, rather they are independent of each other and are independent to have mutually beneficial agreement to take help from each other for improvement, it is their free-will for the selfish interest of profits and better living not dependence.
Spirituality has nothing to do with it, rather it is an issue of Ego, Selfishness, self-interest and Individual aspects of betterment. Spirituality on the other hand forces further collectivism making it a spiritual dogma and ruining not only the individual’s life but whole society. India have suffered many such spiritual debacles/superstitions/misconceptions and frauds.
Yes that is true, people came first, spirtituality, society, nation and government all came laters as a result of human figment of imagination. We create societies and nations and government too. And it starts destructing our own freedom.
Claim is perfectly right and without understanding the reality and truth of these claims, no one can change himself.
Yes, for their irrational profits/interests, they forget their rational self-interests and let thee government rule over them in greeed of specific favours from the government.
As I said, you have mentioned some good points, overall I think you have certain misconception.
Total Individual liberty is not totalitarian government.
Total individual liberty is absence of government or its presence in least possible manner.
yet, I agree that government can be removed only when people would want to end it, and that is why people need to know about the ill-effects of government and their wrongs, and that is possible only by spreading of knowledge and facts based on evidences and reason.
That is the main education every individual should attain, and that is the very purpose of this site and discussion board.
Nishant Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 9:22 pmWell then I am not ignorant. You are limited to your purpose and discussion board.
Spirituality never forces anyone.
Unpretentious Diva Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 9:27 pmLol, i didn’t mean to insult you, i just wanted to remove your misconceptions.
And I am surely limited to my purpose which is universal and too much vast that engulfs every possible factor of life including spirituality.
I don’t believe in spilling over you know, the river ganga remains limited to its path and aim and hence it contains power and potential to bring changes, on the other hand, a more diversed water body like a pool or lake, diverts its energy in various direction and looses all power to move forward and get stagnant, starts spoiling itself.
Nishant Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 9:33 pmFactual misconceptions are a part of every human. I agree I am not much into factual knowledge. But spiritually I am well learned. It is the only solution. Hitler didn’t do anything wrong. People chose him for their interest and agreed with him on every step. So his actions were the product of what his people wanted to see. Killing was not his crime. It was his necessity. If anyone has to be blamed, if any, then it surely not be hitler.
Unpretentious Diva Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 9:46 pmWell, I didn’t delete your comments, rather I added all your oneliners in single comment because whenever you comment, a messsage is sent to all readers of this blog, and it disturbs them, specially if the comment has too facutal misinformations and wrongs.
I agree that it was not Hitler’s fault to be choosen by “Democracy”. but the problem is, those who were against him and opposed him were brutally killed by Hitler.
I am not talking of those who supported Hitler, I am talking of those Individuals who knew Hitler is wrong and were killed by him for speaking the truth. For you human life holds no worth as for you all is spirituality.
For me Individual Human life is spirituality.
Anyways its not a spiritual superstitious board.
I know and you know it too how much people the spirituality of islam, hinduism, deism, christianity, etc have killed.
And anyways, I am not against your spirituality, rather I am saying that if someone doesn’t believe in the **** of spiritualism, it is his freedom to not to believe in it.
You niether need to proselytize him nor need to force spirituality on him.
Now stop talking of spirituality. its off topic.
Nishant Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 9:56 pmDon’t mistake religion for spirituality. And also spirituality is no **** . We all are spiritual beings. It is just about evolving on the spiritual scale. If you don’t like it here, then you contradict your blog which was about freedom of expression.
Nothing is off topic. You tend to take it out since you don’t want to “BELIEVE” in it or may be spirituality isn’t “INTERESTING” for you. Everyone speaks their perceptions. The problem with the nature of arguments is the duality which it contains. Hence in words, no problems end. Just like the duality has enough impetus to drive my arguments out & make you see as you want to see as it’s your blog.
Unpretentious Diva Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 10:05 pmOk Nishant urf Dalai Lama, you won, now you can go to himalaya with all your spirituality.
About spiritual but not religious, enjoy reading this, and stop ruining this political post. Your all ******* spirituality is not needed here. We are Rational beings, not spiritual beings. We lead our life on basis of reason not on superstitions. We discover realities of universe and life on basis of reasonably verified facts, not on some spiritual sermon from someone like you, and well, you are free to have your spiritual songs being sung at your own private space, you are free to use your own property in whatever way you want to use it (including spiritual way) just don’t ruin my site with your spiritual superstitions.
Just like you have no right to enter someone’s bedroom and do **** on her bed, you have no right to bring in spirituality in totally different topic of discussion.
Freedom of expression means nothing if you cannot understand property rights, just because you have freedom of expression you wont start abusing someone after entering his house, and if you would do so, he will slap you.
if you want to rant about spirituality or religion, do enjoy your time here
http://www.reasonforliberty.com/philosophy/spiritualbut-not-religious.html
That topic discusses spirituality and religion.
Have a nice time.