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		<title>By: Zip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s worse than who will provide the force in Anarcho-capitalism...  The real question is what is the law?


Who decides?  What constitutes a fair objective punishment? Is murder a &quot;hanging offence&quot; or merely constitute a life imprisoned?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worse than who will provide the force in Anarcho-capitalism&#8230;  The real question is what is the&nbsp;law?</p>
<p>Who decides?  What constitutes a fair objective punishment? Is murder a &#8220;hanging offence&#8221; or merely constitute a life imprisoned?<br />
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		<title>By: barun</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I just found your interesting article. Just last month, a friend and I were discussing the dangers of anarcho-capitalism, as a contradiction in terms.
I would like to invite you to explore our Ayn Rand in India initiative at www.AynRand.in and www.InDefenceofLiberty.org.
Also, please check our initiative on democracy - Empowering India at www.EmpoweringIndia.org
We look at democracy and free market as complementary, both enhance freedom of choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I just found your interesting article. Just last month, a friend and I were discussing the dangers of anarcho-capitalism, as a contradiction in terms.<br />
I would like to invite you to explore our Ayn Rand in India initiative at <a href="http://www.AynRand.in" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.AynRand.in?referer=');">http://www.AynRand.in</a> and <a href="http://www.InDefenceofLiberty.org" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.InDefenceofLiberty.org?referer=');">http://www.InDefenceofLiberty.org</a>.<br />
Also, please check our initiative on democracy - Empowering India at <a href="http://www.EmpoweringIndia.org" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.EmpoweringIndia.org?referer=');">http://www.EmpoweringIndia.org</a><br />
We look at democracy and free market as complementary, both enhance freedom of&nbsp;choice.</p>
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		<title>By: renegade_division</title>
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		<dc:creator>renegade_division</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A rational man cannot survive in an anarchic society where there is no definite, objective rule for man.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The reason why &#039;objectivism&#039; does not support any form of socialism is because Socialism is distorting the objective reality. The reason why Socialism distorts reality and is irrational is because it tries to achieve things it thinks would be better for the society. They try to achieve that by distorting the reality.

When Rand and Rand followers oppose anarchism(and there is increasing number of Objectivists who now believe that even Rand could be wrong on objectivism)on the grounds that it will not help them achieve some end result, then they do the same mistake as socialists do. Distorting the reality to cater to some end result isn&#039;t really objectivism.

If lets say accepting the objective reality results in destruction of mankind, and not distorting the objective reality results in us being in a better condition, should we accept the distorted reality?

If you say that its ok to distort the reality for the betterment of our society then yes you are right in pushing for a non-anarchist society.
But if its not ok to distort the reality for a preferable end-result then stop talking about the end-result and make an argument WITHOUT talking about the end-result.

All the anti-Anarchist arguments made by the Objectivists talk about if we have an anarchist society no rights will be preserved. Well that&#039;s an end-result you are talking about. The truth is every man has a right to choose the security, justice agency he wants. If acknowledging this right results in non-existence of other natural rights then that&#039;s what the objective reality of the universe is, and there is nothing an objectivist can do about.

The choice of a security agency is a man&#039;s right, a man has a right to his complete labor, then you cannot say in the next sentence &quot;but to allow him to keep most of his labor we need to take a little bit labor out of that complete labor&quot; well then don&#039;t say that man has a right to his complete labor. Don&#039;t say you are an Objectivist say you are a Minobjectivist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A rational man cannot survive in an anarchic society where there is no definite, objective rule for&nbsp;man.</p></blockquote>
<p>The reason why &#8216;objectivism&#8217; does not support any form of socialism is because Socialism is distorting the objective reality. The reason why Socialism distorts reality and is irrational is because it tries to achieve things it thinks would be better for the society. They try to achieve that by distorting the&nbsp;reality.</p>
<p>When Rand and Rand followers oppose anarchism(and there is increasing number of Objectivists who now believe that even Rand could be wrong on objectivism)on the grounds that it will not help them achieve some end result, then they do the same mistake as socialists do. Distorting the reality to cater to some end result isn&#8217;t really&nbsp;objectivism.</p>
<p>If lets say accepting the objective reality results in destruction of mankind, and not distorting the objective reality results in us being in a better condition, should we accept the distorted&nbsp;reality?</p>
<p>If you say that its ok to distort the reality for the betterment of our society then yes you are right in pushing for a non-anarchist society.<br />
But if its not ok to distort the reality for a preferable end-result then stop talking about the end-result and make an argument <span class="caps">WITHOUT</span> talking about the&nbsp;end-result.</p>
<p>All the anti-Anarchist arguments made by the Objectivists talk about if we have an anarchist society no rights will be preserved. Well that&#8217;s an end-result you are talking about. The truth is every man has a right to choose the security, justice agency he wants. If acknowledging this right results in non-existence of other natural rights then that&#8217;s what the objective reality of the universe is, and there is nothing an objectivist can do&nbsp;about.</p>
<p>The choice of a security agency is a man&#8217;s right, a man has a right to his complete labor, then you cannot say in the next sentence &#8220;but to allow him to keep most of his labor we need to take a little bit labor out of that complete labor&#8221; well then don&#8217;t say that man has a right to his complete labor. Don&#8217;t say you are an Objectivist say you are a&nbsp;Minobjectivist.</p>
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		<title>By: Froilan Vincent Bersamina</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! I stumbled on your website and I like your argument against anarcho-capitalism. I consider myself an Objectivism, however it is my first time to argue with someone on Facebook about the validity or morality of anarcho-capitalism. I posted a discussion on an Ayn Rand group on FC entitled- To allow the mixing of Objectivism and Anarcho-Capitalism: An Art of INFILTRATION. I did not read that article of Ayn Rand against anarcho-capitalism. Such a term is a new concept to me and I didn&#039;t know she tackled this in one of her books. I just thought that she was against it.
In that discussion, I presented by original argument against anarcho=capitalism and I must say that it came from my subconscious mind with reference to the teachings of Ayn Rand.
Here&#039;s what I posted:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Anarchism is incompatible with Capitalism as it is incompatible with man&#039;s freedom. Anarchism is a prelude to everything that man should fear- socialism, communism, fascism and every derivative of collectivism. A rational man cannot survive in an anarchic society where there is no definite, objective rule for man. You cannot put man&#039;s fate at the mercy or generosity of a gang of savages who either harbor evil or altruistic intent and who have mustered enough power to rule and enslave men who don&#039;t have the capacity to protect themselves. In a free society, we need the aid and protection of a government with a limited power. This is what Ayn Rand envisions, which is against anarcho-capitalism proposed by Murray Rothbard and his fellow anarchists. What we need is a separation of state and economy. In an anarchic society, there is no protection of contracts, individual rights, and mutual agreements between parties. This social system will only lead to barbarism and social chaos wherein power is available to those who have the means to use force against other men.
We cannot allow hitchhikers to appropriate and even desecrate the philosophy and ideals of Ayn Rand. This method is &quot;infiltration&quot; at best.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Someone in that group stated that Murray Rothbard is the proponent of anarcho-capitalism, and to me the name reminds me of an article branding Ayn Rand as a cult. I thought such an accusation is unfair, illogical and unfounded. I read it. I was surprised to know that when I read Rand&#039;s argument against anarcho-capitalism, it was almost the same as my original argument.
Your argument is also wonderful and glad to know that not all those who read Ayn Rand have sold out to the idea of anarcho-capitalism. What I&#039;d like to say is that I couldn&#039;t have made any rational argument without the things I&#039;ve learned from the works of Ayn Rand. Kudos!
.-= Froilan Vincent Bersamina´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://fvdb.wordpress.com/2009/08/17/the-moral-base-of-the-filipino-nation-and-philippine%E2%80%99s-intellectual-bankruptcy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Moral Base of the Filipino Nation and Philippine’s Intellectual Bankruptcy&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I stumbled on your website and I like your argument against anarcho-capitalism. I consider myself an Objectivism, however it is my first time to argue with someone on Facebook about the validity or morality of anarcho-capitalism. I posted a discussion on an Ayn Rand group on <span class="caps">FC</span> entitled- To allow the mixing of Objectivism and Anarcho-Capitalism: An Art of <span class="caps">INFILTRATION</span>. I did not read that article of Ayn Rand against anarcho-capitalism. Such a term is a new concept to me and I didn&#8217;t know she tackled this in one of her books. I just thought that she was against it.<br />
In that discussion, I presented by original argument against anarcho=capitalism and I must say that it came from my subconscious mind with reference to the teachings of Ayn Rand.<br />
Here&#8217;s what I&nbsp;posted:</p>
<blockquote><p>Anarchism is incompatible with Capitalism as it is incompatible with man&#8217;s freedom. Anarchism is a prelude to everything that man should fear- socialism, communism, fascism and every derivative of collectivism. A rational man cannot survive in an anarchic society where there is no definite, objective rule for man. You cannot put man&#8217;s fate at the mercy or generosity of a gang of savages who either harbor evil or altruistic intent and who have mustered enough power to rule and enslave men who don&#8217;t have the capacity to protect themselves. In a free society, we need the aid and protection of a government with a limited power. This is what Ayn Rand envisions, which is against anarcho-capitalism proposed by Murray Rothbard and his fellow anarchists. What we need is a separation of state and economy. In an anarchic society, there is no protection of contracts, individual rights, and mutual agreements between parties. This social system will only lead to barbarism and social chaos wherein power is available to those who have the means to use force against other men.<br />
We cannot allow hitchhikers to appropriate and even desecrate the philosophy and ideals of Ayn Rand. This method is &#8220;infiltration&#8221; at&nbsp;best.</p></blockquote>
<p>Someone in that group stated that Murray Rothbard is the proponent of anarcho-capitalism, and to me the name reminds me of an article branding Ayn Rand as a cult. I thought such an accusation is unfair, illogical and unfounded. I read it. I was surprised to know that when I read Rand&#8217;s argument against anarcho-capitalism, it was almost the same as my original argument.<br />
Your argument is also wonderful and glad to know that not all those who read Ayn Rand have sold out to the idea of anarcho-capitalism. What I&#8217;d like to say is that I couldn&#8217;t have made any rational argument without the things I&#8217;ve learned from the works of Ayn Rand. Kudos!<br />
<span class="cluv"> Froilan Vincent Bersamina´s last blog ..<a href="http://fvdb.wordpress.com/2009/08/17/the-moral-base-of-the-filipino-nation-and-philippine%E2%80%99s-intellectual-bankruptcy/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/fvdb.wordpress.com/2009/08/17/the-moral-base-of-the-filipino-nation-and-philippine_E2_80_99s-intellectual-bankruptcy/?referer=');">The Moral Base of the Filipino Nation and Philippine’s Intellectual Bankruptcy</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.reasonforliberty.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Ecnarb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ecnarb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pia,
Thank you for this wonderful article. I checked your blog to see if you have twitter, but apparently you may not have one.
Going Galt,
Brance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pia,<br />
Thank you for this wonderful article. I checked your blog to see if you have twitter, but apparently you may not have one.<br />
Going Galt,<br />&nbsp;Brance</p>
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		<title>By: Violation of Copyright is Illegal! &#124; Reason for Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Violation of Copyright is Illegal! &#124; Reason for Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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